Bad fuel

[Toot_Mc]

Chasses E-450 Ford

Filled fuel tank but could get no recite at fuel pump...!!! attendant tells me had 3 inches of rain day before and pumps were so wet recite machine not working in pumps. Drive about 5 miles Engine check light comes on!!! Stop check fuel cap to see if loose. does not help. Check fluid levels everything OK. Drive a short distance everything OK. Guys tells me fault code will go off after three engine starts if nothing wrong.

Code still on a couple days later pull into garage to get code read. Folks I got a tank of bad fuel. Put New filter in and Motor Home runs great.

My question? One guy tells me i need to drop tank and put in new pump. Another mechanic says pump ok if code light not coming on because if pump damaged it would not pump correct pressure and code light would show.

Have any of you run into this problem??? I have driven about 1200 miles sense changing filter and have not had a problem or trouble light.

[klutchdust]

Toot Mc wrote:
Klutchdust:

In Texas we can file a complaint (which I have done) with the department of agriculture and the tanks at the station in question will be inspected for water and low octane fuel.

I will probably never see any compensation for my misfortune But i will have the satisfaction that future consumers will be more or less protected.

I need to look into that in my state.

[Toot_Mc]

Klutchdust:

In Texas we can file a complaint (which I have done) with the department of agriculture and the tanks at the station in question will be inspected for water and low octane fuel.

I will probably never see any compensation for my misfortune But i will have the satisfaction that future consumers will be more or less protected.

[klutchdust]

I would be interested in hearing from someone who actually was able to prove their fuel was bad and their repairs were paid for by the station.

Having been involved in litigations I find that there are more urban legends out there than truth. Now we have had diesel fuel added to some of the

trucks in our fleet and we ran the fuel out and kept diluting it and other than being a bit smoky it dissipated without any harm to the service

trucks.

[JaxDad]

naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia.......

Thats a dicey proposition that really doesn't accomplish anything and exposes you to hefty fines.

Yes, a resident of almost any State can file for a rebate on fuel bought out of State and then imported into their home State.

The problem is two-fold;

First and foremost in order to keep it all legal getting the refund from a purchase of 50 gal. of fuel bought in say North Carolina, you would then also have to then PAY the tax on 50 gal. Of fuel in Virginia.

Secondly, you run the risk of some beaurecrat catching on to the fact your putting the fuel in your vehicle tank and driving out of the State (as opposed to a bulk tank) and that you're actually applying for a refund on some of the fuel you're burning IN State on your way back out.

[mlts22]

I prefer the refund system as opposed to the fuel dye. Use even just a few drops of the wrong fuel, and it isn't pretty.

[Bumpyroad]

GMandJM wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia...

tell me more about rebate on fuel taxes. 🙂
bumpy

This ?

that seems like the standard non-road use refunds. guess I have been missing my rebate on the 5 gallons of gas I burn in my boat each year. 🙂
bumpy

[GMandJM]

Bumpyroad wrote:

naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia...

tell me more about rebate on fuel taxes. 🙂
bumpy

This ?

[Toot_Mc]

Im ready to go just as is but I will have a spare fuel filter to use if i get another check engine code.

I am going to check pressure of fuel rail and see if it is in spec. which I am sure it is.

I was told it can be checked with a tire gage because there is a Schrader valve on fuel rail. I will have to look and make sure that is correct. I was told that is the were jet cleaner is injected. so i will look and see.

[OFDPOS]

Like others have said you've driven it now 1200 miles with no problems.
Run it...
They do sell some over the counter fuel additive that somehow is suppose to "boil the water out" ? But anyways to know for sure would be to run the fuel tank down as low as you can (or siphon out the fuel) then drop the tank and drain it completely.

[KD4UPL]

naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia; and (2) if I ever get a tank of bad fuel, I want to be able to PROVE who is going to be paying for the damage. HPFP, a full set of injectors, bits & pieces plus labor on my TV could run upwards of $10,000. Dunno what they'd run on your rig, but unless you want to pay it all yourself, get a receipt.

I've never had to fight with an attendant to get one, btw.

What rebate? I'm interested.

[Toot_Mc]

Thanks for all the comments. I did get a receipt and am contacting station.

I was more at odds with Mc Kay Ford in Woodward Oklahoma than anyone. I was told that when the manager sees Class C pull into garage that he calls service desk and tells them they are booked up 3 or 4 days out in order to get rid of Class c rigs. This was told to me as a fact by a mechanic who had worked at that dealership. I was sent else where by there service manager. They would not even read my Code which as everyone knows is a plug in under the steering wheel. Apparently they only like there local clients and outsiders don't count.

For all the good it will do I am also contacting district ford manager about this mater.
I have driven ford products sense I was 16 years old (1951) And Have never had anything like this happen before. Maybe I should have been towing My Lincoln MKX instead of my Honda CRV......!!!!!!!

If they had Read the code for me I would have slid under the Coach and changed the filter myself in the Walmart parking lot next door to McKay Ford.

I called around and found a young man who runs J & J auto shop on 5 street just off of Oklahoma ave. in Woodward. He read the code called NAPA had the filter at his shop and had it fixed in just a few min. He was a real trooper. My wife thanks he was heaven sent....!!!!!

[ScottG]

It wouldn't hurt the fuel pump of a gasser. As said by Ductape, if you haven't had problem after 1200 miles I would forget about it.

[Ductape]

I got a tank of something bad mixed in a gas truck once. Think it was diesel. Truck bucked and missed through the whole tank but never quit. Cleared up after that tank burned through.

You've been 1200 miles with no problem, so IMO you can quit worrying.

[TucsonJim]

naturist wrote:
I have two reasons for always getting a receipt: (1) as a Virginia resident, I can get a rebate on fuel taxes paid on fuel bought in Virginia; and (2) if I ever get a tank of bad fuel, I want to be able to PROVE who is going to be paying for the damage. HPFP, a full set of injectors, bits & pieces plus labor on my TV could run upwards of $10,000. Dunno what they'd run on your rig, but unless you want to pay it all yourself, get a receipt.

I've never had to fight with an attendant to get one, btw.

Actually, it cost over $11K on my truck when I poisoned it with DEF. The repairs are the same.