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โAug-15-2016 09:28 AM
427435 wrote:
The short of it is that he was going too fast for his skill level and didn't counter steer correctly and quickly enough.
I blew a LF tire a couple of years ago doing 65. Kept it in my lane (barely) and brought it to a safe stop on the side of the interstate.
โAug-15-2016 08:45 AM
Kayteg1 wrote:
It keeps amazing me how "old farts" will keep on selling their agendas regardless posted facts. ...
We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.
โAug-15-2016 07:18 AM
โAug-15-2016 07:06 AM
rgatijnet1 wrote:
In Florida they used to have a catch all violation that they used with some accidents. It was "driving too fast for conditions". They would use this violation even if you weren't exceeding the speed limit but the current conditions made whatever speed you were traveling unsafe. To them it was obviously unsafe because you had an accident. Maybe they were right and that would be difficult to argue in court. In any case, it would apply to this situation since the coach was going too fast to be controlled in case of a tire failure.
โAug-15-2016 06:45 AM
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โAug-14-2016 10:04 PM
SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It seems to me that cable barriers should be abondoned, in favor of traditional wood posts and large metal channels. I know the cable barriers are far cheaper in materials and far far cheaper in installation cost as well. Sometimes the safety of the people should be more important than the cost of construction...
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โAug-14-2016 10:01 PM
Kayteg1 wrote:
It keeps amazing me how "old farts" will keep on selling their agendas regardless posted facts.
When I remember first dispute where most of us review the video frame by frame - we could not be sure if that was in fact the cable that cost the coach to flip over.
Now on the beginning of this topic we do have link to copy of State Police video/picture report that leaves not much margin for confusion.
So for those who are still playing the "too fast, tires too old" card >>>> what part of Police report saying
"flipped over after smashing against the cable barriers" you can't understand?
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2019 Ford Ranger 4x4
โAug-14-2016 09:23 PM
โAug-14-2016 06:08 PM
Executive wrote:gemert wrote:rockhillmanor wrote:
I still think it's a case of driving too fast. And over reacting.
He was in left lane passing and going too fast. Had he been driving the speed limit a coach towing should have been in the right lane, it wouldn't have flipped over when he tried to go around around what ever was laying in the road.
Over reacted at high speeds. Just saying. We will never know what really happened from just the video though.
And how can you tell he was speeding or going too fast! You would have to know how fast the truck was going and that wasn't given. I have been certified as a police speed radar Operator in Florida since 1989. Part of that is being able to estimate speed of moving traffic within 3 MPH. From the cab of a truck though it is unlikely that anyone can accurately estimate either vehicles speed without knowing at least one of them. Give the driver a break! I usually drive at 62 regardless of the speed limit (you know what I mean) and I even pass a truck every now and then.
IIRC the trucker stated he was traveling over 65mph when the moho passed him. One could measure the white stripes, count the number of stripes he passed and mathematically determine his speed using a stop watch. He was going too fast while towing. Also if you watch the video, you'll see an alligator fly up just as he leaves the highway....Dennis
โAug-14-2016 05:46 PM
gemert wrote:rockhillmanor wrote:
I still think it's a case of driving too fast. And over reacting.
He was in left lane passing and going too fast. Had he been driving the speed limit a coach towing should have been in the right lane, it wouldn't have flipped over when he tried to go around around what ever was laying in the road.
Over reacted at high speeds. Just saying. We will never know what really happened from just the video though.
And how can you tell he was speeding or going too fast! You would have to know how fast the truck was going and that wasn't given. I have been certified as a police speed radar Operator in Florida since 1989. Part of that is being able to estimate speed of moving traffic within 3 MPH. From the cab of a truck though it is unlikely that anyone can accurately estimate either vehicles speed without knowing at least one of them. Give the driver a break! I usually drive at 62 regardless of the speed limit (you know what I mean) and I even pass a truck every now and then.
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