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Who Has Purchased A New MH Out Of State ?

OFDPOS
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Asking anyone who has purchased a MH out of state and how did your license/registration figure into the deal ?

I was working with a Dealer in IN on a new MH .
Without getting into the details (this may be another post at a later date) But I was straight up with the dealer , I know the games of dealer starts high and customer starts low and back and forth .
I told them I want a OTD price of what I can get XYZ MH for with XYZ options. tax, license,registration, doc fees and whatever else that seems to get slid in on the final price.
I get the runaround abit , price of MH ,tax for my cty in my state and doc fees. The guy says there we met your price.
I reply back with where's the license/registration ? His reply we give you a 30 day plate and you register it when you get back home.

Is this the norm ? I have bought several vehicles through the years , but never out of state.
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mgirardo
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We purchased our MH in NJ while we lived in GA. We paid the dealer the price, plus sales tax, doc, licensing fees, etc. They gave us a check for the sales tax made out to our County's tax collector and a non-resident temporary tag and temporary registration. Our dealer told us if we were paying cash, they wouldn't charge us the sales tax and that we would just pay it when we registered it. Since we financed it the bank needed proof we paid sales tax.

When we got back to GA and registered it we handed them the check. They needed $18 more dollars from us because in NJ they don't charge tax on Licensing Fees and Doc Fees, but in GA they do.

It sounds like your dealer is being straight with you. You aren't registering it in the state you are buying it, so you wouldn't pay their registration fees.

-Michael
Michael Girardo
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SCVJeff
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Bought in WA and had a 24 hr pass to leave the state. All CA fees were paid to DMV via AAA once we got home.
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DrewE
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OFDPOS wrote:
DrewE
So you would be fine with a dealership saying your Out The Door Price is mutually agreed upon $xxx Including EVERYTHING you discussed with back and forth emails and telephone conversations with their word saying that includes EVERYTHING we discussed .
You fly out to get your New MH and find out several agreed upon items ARE NOT included and now YOU have to pay for them..

I call that misleading, deceiving and being dishonest !

So saying all this , then when you bought out of state TT, MH did you consider the cost of registration into your negotiating the final cost offer in purchasing said TT,MH ?

I don't mean to sound like an ahole , I just see/say things black and white . No grey area..
I have a set amount I have to spend and that is it for a set purchase, I don't want any "oh we forgot this or now I have to pay that"
That is why I always deal with OTD price. That way there is no surprises at time of delivery . If I forgot something then its on me same as if they forgot something. Then the financing comes into play weather I pay cash or finance it..

In this deal I was going with paying cash for the full amount of deal, I told the guy up front , I did my research on the MH optioned it out exactly the way I could afford it. Offered what I considered a fair price and after a few back and forth emails , phone calls he said we have the deal ... NOT !!!


I bought my motorhome out of state from a private seller, so perhaps things were a bit clearer. I gave him the bank check, he gave me the title, and I went to the NH DMV to get a transit permit ($10 or $20, I forget), then drove home to VT and paid registration, taxes, and so forth. Naturally, I did figure the cost of Vermont registration and use tax when negotiating the price.

I'm not trying to suggest that you don't have a misunderstanding with the dealer you're working with in this specific point, as obviously you do, but rather that I don't see it as proof of malfeasance on their part. With the transit permit/temp registration, you very much can drive out the door of the dealer legally. From what you've written, the price you're being quoted does include registration (albeit temporary), their document fee, and apparently the taxes you'll owe—title, tax, and registration. (I also obviously don't have as full a picture as you do, and don't know anything about the other things you believed were taken care and weren't. It's well within the realm of believability that the dealer may be a bit sleazy.)

tatest
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Having bought several motor vehicles in one state and registering them in others, all I can say is that there is no standard way to do this. It depends on the rules in the state where you buy it and the state where you register it.

I've bought in Michigan and Missouri to register in Oklahoma, and I am the only one who can pay the taxes and apply for a title in Oklahoma, the state will not deal with the dealer. In Missouri I can leave the state with receipt, certificate of origin, and a temporary tag, and not pay taxes there. In Michigan, I cannot get off the lot without at least a "temporary" Michigan title, and the dealer is required to process that, collect the fees and taxes, and take those to the Secretary of State's office.

I've bought in South Carolina to register in Michigan, but did that under SC's wartime military rules, which is not a typical transaction.

I think it is unreasonable to ask an out of state dealer to handle tax and title transactions for you, and include that in the out the door price. Particularly with the tax situation is a perverse as it is for California, with taxes and inspections location specific. It is unlikely that a dealer in Indiana is licensed as a tax agent in California, or even as a car dealer in California.
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roadrat2
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If they say they are collectin CA sales tax I'd verify that withCA. In MD they collect the sales tax when you register the vehicle. It'd be a shame to register in CA only to have them ask you for the sales tax...after having paid to the dealer.
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OFDPOS
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DrewE
So you would be fine with a dealership saying your Out The Door Price is mutually agreed upon $xxx Including EVERYTHING you discussed with back and forth emails and telephone conversations with their word saying that includes EVERYTHING we discussed .
You fly out to get your New MH and find out several agreed upon items ARE NOT included and now YOU have to pay for them..

I call that misleading, deceiving and being dishonest !

So saying all this , then when you bought out of state TT, MH did you consider the cost of registration into your negotiating the final cost offer in purchasing said TT,MH ?

I don't mean to sound like an ahole , I just see/say things black and white . No grey area..
I have a set amount I have to spend and that is it for a set purchase, I don't want any "oh we forgot this or now I have to pay that"
That is why I always deal with OTD price. That way there is no surprises at time of delivery . If I forgot something then its on me same as if they forgot something. Then the financing comes into play weather I pay cash or finance it..

In this deal I was going with paying cash for the full amount of deal, I told the guy up front , I did my research on the MH optioned it out exactly the way I could afford it. Offered what I considered a fair price and after a few back and forth emails , phone calls he said we have the deal ... NOT !!!

PSW
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We have purchased new motorhomes in two surrounding states. It was not a hassle at all with the exception that when we bought one in Texas they wanted to make darn sure we were not "Texans" trying to avoid tax and required our Oklahoma authorities to send them all kinds of documentation for the Texas authorities. We also bought a new RV in Arkansas and it was no hassle at all. I guess Arkies are just more trusting than Texians 🙂

Texas has no income tax so they are really serious about collecting vehicle taxes, apparently. We sold a motorhome thru PPL in Houston and we had to go through a lot of steps we certainly would not have had to do if we had sold it here at home. I think it is because they just don't trust us Okies because we have beaten and embarrased them so many times in football over the years:D

Our current motorhome was purchased from an individual who lived five miles down the road and was less than one year old. It was registered with a tag issued by one of the Oklahoma Indian tribes. The State of Okahoma treats them just like they are an out of state purchase. Our tag agency was required to physically inspect the vehicle to verify the VIN number and I was required to return the Indian tag to the seller once I got my official state tag.

So, I would conclude that it varies a whole lot from state to state.
PSW
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DrewE
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That sounds pretty much standard for out of state vehicle purchases to me. The state you buy the vehicle in issues a transit permit (a typically 30 day temporary registration), and you pay taxes and registration fees in your home state once you get the vehicle back there. Sometimes the dealer will collect the estimated tax etc. for your home state from you and then write a check to give the DMV, which may be useful if you wish to include it in your financing. If you're paying cash, it obviously makes little difference whether or not your money goes through your dealer's bank between you and the DMV.

The only thing mentioned that the dealer isn't covering for you is the registration fee for California. They are covering the Indiana transit permit fee and apparently the California taxes. I don't get the sense they're being dishonest or underhanded. Likewise, they presumably aren't including a California state safety/emissions inspection, as that's not an Indiana fee and obviously they aren't themselves authorized to perform California inspections.

Be very glad you aren't dealing with Massachusetts for an out of state purchase....

(By the way, I think usually the term "registration" is used for vehicles and "licensing" is used for drivers, with the exception of "license plates" which just confuse the terminology.)

Explorer1016
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My finance company took care of all of those items for my. They did all of the math and collected the money from me and paid tax, registration etc and mailed the plates to me. I used a plate from another truck i own and drove home through 5 states. No hassle, no issues. My plates came in the mail.
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OFDPOS
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Ok reason why I ask this is I specifically asked for a OTD price and told them I don't care how they come up with the price as long as EVERYTHING is included and I offered a set price of $XXX and if they excepted it we have a deal.
The salesguy guy emails back ok we got it OTD at your offer price
Then he sends over a agreement priced out for us to sign and fax back.
It only had purchase of MH , doc fees. and tax for my cty/state.
No mention of license/registration.
Which I replied back NO you didn't meet my price ! Because if you had it would have included the license/registration, the full doc fee and a couple other items we had discussed . Those items were nowhere on the paperwork.

His reply back was they give you the 30 day plate and that was their final offer on the table....

Which I haven't replied back because it just totally frosted my ass how this salesguy once again turned into a deceiving, lying typical used car salesperson I have been dealing with for the last 3 months with at least 10 different RV dealerships from New to used, this one only being the out of state one...

I guess he figured if I just overlooked the items and signed he had me hooked ?

donn0128
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Go buy a trip permit at your local DMV office. Take it with you when you pick up your new toy. Easy and legal

sch911
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Yes it is the norm. Your vehicles are always registered in your own state. You can let the dealer figure out all that and charge you to do it, or you can get the temp permit and do it yourself.
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KristinU
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We've purchased three times out of state, two trailers and one motorhome. All three times the dealer has figured out tax and registration for our state, collected the fees as part of the purchase transaction, then issued a check to our state's DMV and gave it to us along with giving us a temp plate. We then went to the DMV to register and pay the sales tax.

Editing to add that the trailers were new, MH was purchased used...but same thing each time.
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ronfisherman
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We purchased out RV in AZ. The dealer drove Motorhome to NM. It had 90 day AZ plates on it. We then drove motorhome to MI. In MI. we transferred title, paid MI. taxes and bought plates.
IN. may have different rules.
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