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โMar-29-2022 07:20 AM
Iโve read that Dish can provide internet and wonder how that works. Does anyone use them. Seems like it might be more cost effective than two separate carriers. We kind of want to keep Dish cause we really like the hopper.
Any suggestions?
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โApr-03-2022 12:45 PM
wa8yxm wrote:2112 wrote:
We started with WildBlue many years ago. Then moved to Excede for faster service sometime along the way. Viasat bought out Excede but we are still using our Excede account and hardware.
I knew there was one name I was forgetting EXCEED. that's what Bob used.. I never used it but Bob did. (K9EID, Robert Gene Heil, member Rock and Roll hall of fame, Producer of Microphones, accessories and sound systems. Noted amateur radio operator. Theater organist, (among other instruments) and electronics engineer.
Wow, gee whiz! Bob is quite a guy, even if I never heard of him, LOL.
Wonder if he/you know the story of Leo Fender, the Stratocaster, the "Showman and Dual Showman" amps, & Dick Dale..."King of the Surf Guitar"?
Maybe Heil Ave. in Huntington Beach, CA ("Surf City") is named after Bob - like Fender St. in Fullerton, CA - which *was* named due to Leo Fender and his many famous guitars.
BTW - more worthless trivia...as a lowly "Computer Operator" back in the 60's I worked with Jules Schwartz - the originator of the JOVIAL computer language - at SDC (System Development in Santa Monica. Another "think tank" spin-off from the Rand Corp, which is still in business.
We would time share every morning (about 6AM), two IBM 360-65s, with the Pentagon.
JOVIAL (Jules Own Version of the International Algebraic Language) is still in use in some military applications.
(Google any of those!)
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โApr-01-2022 01:46 PM
2112 wrote:
We started with WildBlue many years ago. Then moved to Excede for faster service sometime along the way. Viasat bought out Excede but we are still using our Excede account and hardware.
I knew there was one name I was forgetting EXCEED. that's what Bob used.. I never used it but Bob did. (K9EID, Robert Gene Heil, member Rock and Roll hall of fame, Producer of Microphones, accessories and sound systems. Noted amateur radio operator. Theater organist, (among other instruments) and electronics engineer.
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โApr-01-2022 03:18 AM
Have not followed them for a while.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
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โMar-31-2022 05:00 PM
wa8yxm wrote:
Can't recall what the assorted names are... I think Wild Blue,, and ViaSat are on the list of names..
They are not rated for mobile use however and no plans that I know of.
Not true. There are several mobile sat Internet companies and plans . . .
HughesNet Gen 5 (Ka band)
- Manual Dish Setup (~ $1700). Business Internat Data plans from 35 GB/mon ($89.99) to 200 GB/mon ($389.99). Download speed max is 25 Mbps.
- Automatic Dish ($6,995). Data Plans 35 GB/mon ($89.95) & 50 GB/mon ($119.99).
ViaSat (Ku band)
- RV Data Sat Automatic System (~ $7,000). The data plans are sold by Speed. The cheapest (and slowest) data plan is
1 Mbps ($79.99/mon) the fastest is 4 Mbps ($329/mon).
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โMar-31-2022 03:44 PM
Retired JSO wrote:
I assume this system will be more reliable once all the satellites are launched.
I am inclined to agree.... It is a new or more or less new type of service.. there is an older service (forget the name) that's gone through a bunch of name changes... Can't recall what the assorted names are... I think Wild Blue,, and ViaSat are on the list of names.. Wish I Could recall the original name.
They are not rated for mobile use however and no plans that I know of.
Ah. Google is my friend: Iridium
Company went bust. another bought it and ...second verse same as the first (Went bust and another bought it) and 3rd and 4th and well you get the idea.
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โMar-31-2022 08:31 AM
My neighbor has now returned 2 Star Link systems. The first used a round dish antenna while the second one returned last week used a rectangular dish antenna. His complaint is it would be working fine one minute then stop working. I assume this system will be more reliable once all the satellites are launched.
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โMar-31-2022 01:37 AM
wa8yxm wrote:
Oh. Starlink..> MR. Musk's new LEO Satellite ISP.. I'm told they are at least TESTING if not offering "mobile" accounts.... That said. I do not yet know how much coverage they have. the cost. or how well they perform... I'd be interested if I was still mobile. but alas, I'm not.
And alas I get this when trying to subscribe here using my central OH zip code. Send a $99 deposit and wait until next year or later? No thanks. I'll be glad to send Mr Musk the entire amount in Bitcoin if he wants, once he can give me a confirmed date. I wish I could get the Dairy folks to pay for milk, or at least send us a cash deposit a year or longer in advance LOL.
"Order now to reserve your Starlink. Starlink is currently at capacity in your area, so your order may not be fulfilled until 2023 or later".
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โMar-30-2022 06:12 PM
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โMar-30-2022 02:47 PM
wa8yxm wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:wa8yxm wrote:2oldman wrote:
Internet through your satellite dish? Haven't seen that yet.
I have a couple different versions of it... First is a different dish (Bigger) next is they deliver internet via alternative means (IE: Cellular, Cable, Twisted pair) and finally there is Sat down, alternative up.
I'd ask 'em how they deliver..
Yes, there is Sat Internet available, but that wasn't the question that the OP asked about.
And as you can see I was not responding to the Original Poster I was responding to 2-old Man
Oh. Starlink..> MR. Musk's new LEO Satellite ISP.. I'm told they are at least TESTING if not offering "mobile" accounts.... That said. I do not yet know how much coverage they have. the cost. or how well they perform... I'd be interested if I was still mobile. but alas, I'm not.
I think 2oldmans question was about getting Internet directly from the same dish as the DishTV dish.. In other words, there is confusion between DishTV and Dish "offering" a TV and Internet package.
Natural assumption seems to be along the lines that DishTV and Dish Internet is both delivered by Dish which is not true.
Further adding confusion is the fact that folks are clearly confusing this with the idea that DishTV and Dish Internet bundle could possibly delivered on DishTV satellites and you could possibly get BOTH services via ONE DISH.
The answer to that is a firm no.
Dish doesn't even have enough bandwidth left on any of their satellites to transmit the SD quality channels with enough resolution for a 20" TV let alone handle Internet traffic.
Dishes Satellites are also not equipped to handle additional Internet uplinking traffic that would be required for 100% duplex Internet traffic.
The KEY WORD is "partnering" which is another word for "reselling" another service they do not own.
Hughes and ViaSat satellites are designed from ground up for duplex Internet service. DishTV's satellites are designed from ground up as TV ONLY content delivery systems. The two different things do not meet..
Clear?
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โMar-30-2022 02:05 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:wa8yxm wrote:2oldman wrote:
Internet through your satellite dish? Haven't seen that yet.
I have a couple different versions of it... First is a different dish (Bigger) next is they deliver internet via alternative means (IE: Cellular, Cable, Twisted pair) and finally there is Sat down, alternative up.
I'd ask 'em how they deliver..
Yes, there is Sat Internet available, but that wasn't the question that the OP asked about.
And as you can see I was not responding to the Original Poster I was responding to 2-old Man
Oh. Starlink..> MR. Musk's new LEO Satellite ISP.. I'm told they are at least TESTING if not offering "mobile" accounts.... That said. I do not yet know how much coverage they have. the cost. or how well they perform... I'd be interested if I was still mobile. but alas, I'm not.
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โMar-30-2022 01:55 PM
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โMar-30-2022 01:18 PM
Retired JSO wrote:
Dish Internet is through their partnership with wired providers in your area so itโs not by Dish satellite but by landline.
Hmm..
According to Dishes own website, they DO "partner" with Sat Internet delivery providers..
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But no, Dish themselves do not own any satellites that beam or deliver Internet down to Earth.
Instead they are simply reselling Hughes or ViaSat Internet services.
So, if the intent or need is Sat Internet, you would end up with a dish from Hughes or ViaSat PLUS your DishTV dish..
Internet from Hughes or ViaSat should be considered a last ditch effort if you have no DSL, No cable, no Fiber and no Cellphone service..