Soliciting calls on home phone.

[mike-uswest]

This isn't RV related, but people on here seem to have a lot of information. On our home phone lately, we have been getting a ton of calls trying to sell us home security, computer stuff to make our computer safer, begging for donations to everything under the sun. We put all of our phones on that no call list a couple of times over the last few years, and that seems to get no results. Has anyone had any luck with any source??

Mike

[rk911]

Duck wrote:
The problem with robo calls around here, if you do not answer within 4 or 5 rings you will get a call back from the same company in the future.
Don

and if you do answer you will get a call back from the same company in the future. they do eventually give up. we've been getting calls from something called 'Clothes For Charity'...sometimes 3 and 4 times per day. we never answer. it's been a week since the last call. maybe they've finally figured it out.

[Duck]

The problem with robo calls around here, if you do not answer within 4 or 5 rings you will get a call back from the same company in the future.
Don

[az99]

If you know what company is calling, contact your state Attorney General office. I was getting continuous calls from Palmco power from Brooklyn. I filed a complaint and within a few weeks got an apology from them and and no more calls.

Unfortunately in our area we have Windstream which does not have caller ID unless you go to some high $ package.

[Tvov]

Bill.Satellite wrote:
While not directly related to this topic, be very careful about any kind of lottery, sweepstake or drawing you might enter. I was reading the paperwork on the form you fill out at your local shopping mall to win that sparkling new car. By filling out the entry you agree to allow all telemarketing from any company even if you are on a DNC list.

That goes for almost anything... if you have basically ANY interaction with a business, that business is allowed to call your phone, and if you signed a paper with a lot of small print? ... probably somewhere in there it said the business could give your phone number to other businesses to call you.

[Bill_Satellite]

While not directly related to this topic, be very careful about any kind of lottery, sweepstake or drawing you might enter. I was reading the paperwork on the form you fill out at your local shopping mall to win that sparkling new car. By filling out the entry you agree to allow all telemarketing from any company even if you are on a DNC list.

[Gdetrailer]

camperpaul wrote:

SRT wrote:

wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.

Steve,
The teeth are already there.

ALL TELEMARKETING CALLS to cell-phones are specifically prohibited by the TCPA (aka section 227 of the "Communications Act of 1934" aka "Title 47 USC")). Therefore there is no need for a "Cellphone DNC list".

The use of "ROBO-DIALERS" is also prohibited.

The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.

US DOJ does not have "jurisdiction OUTSIDE the US, pretty much all the calls ORIGINATE OUTSIDE the US, hence the reason why the Do Not Call list was a failure from the start..

US DOJ can only go after the scoff laws INSIDE the US.

[2oldman]

camperpaul wrote:
The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.

And I'm sure it's a top priority of enforcment...not.

The best way to deal with these calls is to ignore them.

[camperpaul]

SRT wrote:

wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.

Steve,
The teeth are already there.

ALL TELEMARKETING CALLS to cell-phones are specifically prohibited by the TCPA (aka section 227 of the "Communications Act of 1934" aka "Title 47 USC")). Therefore there is no need for a "Cellphone DNC list".

The use of "ROBO-DIALERS" is also prohibited.

The agency charged with enforcement of these provisions is the US DOJ.

[SRT]

wa8yxm wrote:
There is a problem with the DO NOT CALL list, it worked for a bit but the 3rd class callers (My name for 'em) quickly figured out the flaw in the law.

There is no agency that enforces it. Oh the FCC will keep a log of complaints, but there is no agency charged with ENFORCING the law.. When it gets bad enough the FCC may act...

But Title 47 Section 227 of the US code (Look it up) states that YOU THE OFFENDED must take enforcement action by filing a suit against the caller... So they lie about who they are and where they area, they make it hard as possible to serve.. Still.. I will be filing against one in the very near future.

We need to lobby our congress critters to add some genuine TEETH to that law.. Allow the government to act on behalf of the offended and fine the company 500 or better yet 5000 per illegal phone call,, Times thousands of calls a day.. Could do two things.

1: Bankrupt the 3rd class calling business (This would be a very good thing)
2: Dent the national debt (Also a good thing)

Yes, put more teeth in the DO NOT CALL list. Darn thing doesn't work any more as far as I'm concerned.

[mike-uswest]

I guess these guys are just like bad weather, they are going to happen. You just have to learn to ignore them. Thanks.

Mike

[Gdetrailer]

mike-uswest wrote:
This isn't RV related, but people on here seem to have a lot of information. On our home phone lately, we have been getting a ton of calls trying to sell us home security, computer stuff to make our computer safer, begging for donations to everything under the sun. We put all of our phones on that no call list a couple of times over the last few years, and that seems to get no results. Has anyone had any luck with any source??

Mike

Do not call list from the start was a complete failure, in fact it makes a great active phone number list for robo callers and scammers which are typically ALWAYS OUTSIDE the US.

With the advent of Voice over IP (VoIP) Internet phones it is easy and cheap for scammers and other unwanted junk callers to get phone numbers inside the US but originate the calls OUTSIDE the US.

I am fortunate with my home phone that my phone co offered a anonymous call rejection feature with my phone package. Stops ALL calls which does not have caller ID. My phone never rings if there is no caller id provided (IE caller ID is blocked).

I get very few unwanted calls and if a call gets through we screen the phone number and if it is nobody we know we let it go to the answering machine..

Now if this feature is not available in your phone company package you can now add a caller id blocking box. The downside of this box is you will have to manually add any number which you want to block.

HERE is an example of a call blocking device you can add to your phone line (you WILL need Caller ID service for this to work).

[Dutch_12078]

Telemarketers don't have to "steal numbers" to use. It's really pretty simple for them to spoof any Caller ID number they want displayed. When I was setting up my analog telephone adapter (ATA) to use the PhonePower VOIP service, I had to tell them what number I wanted Caller ID to display. It's not quite as easy for me to change the number at will because I don't have direct access to the call management software, but the telemarketers do.

[1rickw]

We get at least 3 calls a day. Some I answer just to be able to say "Go Away". Now about half of the calls are from Contractors. We don't have Nomorerobos available here. I have called ATT and they cannot/will not block calls unless it is a known number. If I redial the number, it alway states that the number is not in service. They must steal numbers and use them once. At least I can block certain callers on my Cell.

[diveman52]

Ya I had on of them call me a couple of days ago on my cell so I went a head and told them I was very interested in there energy saying stuff.
Windows, HVAC, Solar all of it. She said wonder of wonders they had a man in our areas the next day would I like to set up and appointment.
Sure I said. Were 15 miles out of town LOL.
Did not tell her I would not be home. I figure is they want to waste my time why not waste there's. I will not nor never will do business with anyone who calls me out of the blue.
Oh he did show up left a card at the gate which I throw in the trash.