Bark, bark, bark continuously!

[lakeside013104]

First off, I am a dog owner, have worked with dogs for years, play with dogs and love dogs.

Currently in an Elite RV resort in central FL with about 300 sites half of which are privately owned and the remainder are rentals. This place is clean except for the sites with oak trees and the park is dog friendly.

Our neighbors are often gone for the day or evening and leave their dog in RV while away. As soon as they leave their dog starts barking and does not stop until they return. The dog barks enough to cause his bark to become hoarse and labored sounding.

My question is: "When is the appropriate time to complain to the office and what kind of response should one expect to receive"?


Lakeside

[big_buford]

I know several people that like their dogs MUCH more than people! Not willing to take that chance. Not afraid of anybody just not willing to get into a pi$$ing match when my nerves are probably already on edge. I'd let the park handle it.

[azrving]

noplace2 wrote:

Tom N wrote:


This collar should be placed on the owner. Every time the dog barks, the owner would get a shock!

Could not agree with you more! Therein lies the real problem. I love animals. They are not the problem.

And I'm amazed that yet another barking dog thread hasn't been closed by now. Mods must be taking a day off. 😄

Good point about the collar on the owner. No need to close anything. People should be able to share all their ideas. Learning comes through listening to and contemplating, pondering, proving or disproving others ideas, not going along with the crowd.

[noplace2]

Tom N wrote:


This collar should be placed on the owner. Every time the dog barks, the owner would get a shock!

Could not agree with you more! Therein lies the real problem. I love animals. They are not the problem.

And I'm amazed that yet another barking dog thread hasn't been closed by now. Mods must be taking a day off. 😄

[azrving]

So we also have to consider the dog dont we? What if there is a problem with the dog? It may be to the dogs benefit if it has a problem that needs immediate attention and the park office could call the owner instead of someone waiting all day so they could go tell the owner. The dog may not normally bark but he may be trying to tell you something this time.

[camperkilgore]

Tom N wrote:

coolbreeze01 wrote:
hitecpet.com/barkcollar.html

This collar should be placed on the owner. Every time the dog barks, the owner would get a shock!

Now that right there is funny. I don't care who you are.
(spoken with Larry The Cable Guy voice)

[phillyg]

I agree, it's time to speak with the owners. Our Sheltie had never had a barking problem; in fact, he almost never barked. But, we were told one afternoon after having been gone for several hours that he barked incessently the entire time. He was 13 with cancer and was going downhill fairly fast. We don't know for sure why he started barking, but knowing it allowed us to take steps to minimize the problem. Unfortunately, the guy doing the telling did not have good people skills and the conversation he had with me in the middle of the street with lots of people watching went downhill quickly. Instead of showing anger, I agree with the above posts suggesting you express your concern for the dog's well-being. The owners may very well be appreciative rather than contrary.

[Peddler95]

Sorry if I missed it but, I haven't seen a suggestion that the park " management" should know if a dog barks all day in thier park. Too many parks are run by people that just sit behind the desk and expect the paying guests to take care of problems. Ask them what they are doing to get the dog to quit barking and when they say " we didn't know anything about it" Ask them why.

[azrving]

toedtoes wrote:

rjxj wrote:
Here is another issue. Suppose the park owner was to go onto campsite reviews and notice that the reviews of his park have people mentioning the fact that when they come to stay they seem to have to tell someone about their dog being left in the trailer barking. About the only thing the park owner could do it that point is wonder why he's not getting any complaints about it or he may have changed his policies and his emphasis on that issue at check in. Hes not getting feed back because the majority didnt listen at check in when they say if you have any problems let us know we're it says on the rule sheet if you have any issues bring them to the park management. If the management is involved with resolving the problem he may be able to even weed out some people who would tend to continue that behavior. If they dont come back to this park then it would be more enjoyable for you and you wouldn't have to go deal with it.

OK. So, using this example, you find it unfair for someone to post negative comments about a park without giving the park owner the opportunity to fix it first.

So why would you NOT give that same opportunity to the dog owner - giving them a chance to fix it before taking it to the next level?

For me, I believe in giving a person or company the chance to correct a small problem before turning it into a big problem. Usually, I find that it really wasn't a problem after all.

Already explained all my points above and they cover that issue thoroughly. It's not turned into a big problem if you go to the office. Why is it assumed that that's a problem? The park doesn't assume it to be a problem, my bet is that you will never find one that tells you to go deal with it. That's still my bet. It's only the people who want to handle it themselves assumption that going to the office is a problem. The people who read the paper or the management smiles at them and says "If you have any problems please let us know" are just doing what the park says to do. I dont assume that if a person goes to the office about my dog or anything else that they are escalating anything or being a problem. They are just doing what the office said to do. Why would that be a problem?

Has anyone actually gone to any park and read or been told to go tell their neighbors anything about park rule issues?

[toedtoes]

And just to clarify - I am NOT suggesting that you never go to the office. If the dog owner is at his/her site watching tv while the dog is barking non-stop outside, I'd go directly to the office.

But if the dog is only barking when the owner is gone, then I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and bring it to their attention before tattling on them.

[Tom_N]

coolbreeze01 wrote:
hitecpet.com/barkcollar.html

This collar should be placed on the owner. Every time the dog barks, the owner would get a shock!

[toedtoes]

rjxj wrote:
Here is another issue. Suppose the park owner was to go onto campsite reviews and notice that the reviews of his park have people mentioning the fact that when they come to stay they seem to have to tell someone about their dog being left in the trailer barking. About the only thing the park owner could do it that point is wonder why he's not getting any complaints about it or he may have changed his policies and his emphasis on that issue at check in. Hes not getting feed back because the majority didnt listen at check in when they say if you have any problems let us know we're it says on the rule sheet if you have any issues bring them to the park management. If the management is involved with resolving the problem he may be able to even weed out some people who would tend to continue that behavior. If they dont come back to this park then it would be more enjoyable for you and you wouldn't have to go deal with it.

OK. So, using this example, you find it unfair for someone to post negative comments about a park without giving the park owner the opportunity to fix it first.

So why would you NOT give that same opportunity to the dog owner - giving them a chance to fix it before taking it to the next level?

For me, I believe in giving a person or company the chance to correct a small problem before turning it into a big problem. Usually, I find that it really wasn't a problem after all.

[navegator]

If your cell phone has video recording with sound, start recording when they leave and then move closer to the RV with the dogs barking, that way the sound will be clear as to where it is from.

Do not go up to the vehicle where the dogs can see or hear you, that will defeat the purpose of the video, then when they get back show them the video and let them handle the situation, if nothing happens show video to park management and let them go from there.

If all this fails request a different spot maybe an upgrade?

navegator

[azrving]

Cloud Dancer wrote:
If my electronic ray dog-barking gizmo doesn't solve the problem, I then visit the office and give them the information they need. If this doesn't solve the problem I ask for a refund. If they refuse to refund my money, I leave. It won't be the first time.
I don't waste my time talking to a neighbor about a problem that I have with THEM.

Thank you and whoever else up above mentioned this device. I knew they had collars but I have never heard of these. It's interesting to read what they say in this link about people and how they react to someone complaining about their dog. This is what I love about these forums. Always so many good inputs, ideas and links.

Shut Up!

[Cloud_Dancer]

If my electronic ray dog-barking gizmo doesn't solve the problem, I then visit the office and give them the information they need. If this doesn't solve the problem I ask for a refund. If they refuse to refund my money, I leave. It won't be the first time.
I don't waste my time talking to a neighbor about a problem that I have with THEM.

[azrving]

toedtoes wrote:
I don't think anyone has voted for "confront the dog owner first". It's more "give the dog owner a heads up that there is an issue before making a formal complaint".

I think what many folks are suggesting is that you can prevent it from being a "problem that requires official intervening" simply by talking to the dog owner.

This seems to be a difficult thing to do nowadays - folks tend to see any and every thing as a Problem that needs resolving. Most often the thing is minimal, and considerate and straight-forward communication at the outset will resolve it before it becomes a Problem.

Sometimes reading these threads is like watching a Jane Bloody Austen movie - if the d**ned people would just communicate with each other, there'd be no stupid story... 🙂

People dont sit on their front porches anymore, they dont know their neighbors, they dont say hi. It's not the same as it may have been 40 years ago. It's easy to understand others point of view and just politely talk to the neighbor but I have also seen to many times that it doesn't work out well. Everyone has different experiences and results. Damn, I have people pissed at me for building a vacation home or getting a new truck. It's baffling, I worked for it, I didn't steal it but some people are that way. The last thing I'm in the campground for is dealing with those issues.

I have only been to a campground office one time and that was over drunks that couldn't understand the quiet time rules. I may have drank more than them but I'm smart enough to go by the rules and I dont want someone else to have to come and talk to me. If the park management did come to me with an issue, we would correct what we are doing wrong and be just fine with whoever is around me. I was the problem, not them, so I wouldn't even have an attitude. Everyone isn't like me or you or all the other people on here who are good neighbors. Maybe Ive seen to many ugly things.

Pertaining to the chainsaw issue above. As someone else said, people know what their dogs are like, the neighbor knew the dog was barking, they drove up and went inside then plopped down on the opposite side of the house and turned up the ball game. The dog was never even let out.

Over the previous 15 years I had always watched their seasonal place, mowed the driveway with my tractor and now that he has passed I pick up downed branches and etc that she cant handle. The chainsaw incident just reminded them of what they had or what they could have. NO, he didn't die of 2 stroke smoke inhalation. We wave to each other and they love me. I say "they" as in her and 2 sons who dont do much for her.