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Bought new TT today, 2016 Stealth, worried I cant pull it!

AMG1978
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Today I bought a 2016 Forest River Stealth WA2916 toy hauler. I have a 2015 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost, 6.5' bed, 4x4, SuperCrew, MaxTow package, 3.55 axle, 157" wheelbase. ford site: http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/15RV&TT_Ford_F150_r1_Jan12.pdf

My truck shows with a full 36 gallon tank, I have a payload of 1630lbs (with a full tank, @ 300lbs of fuel). Ford.com shows my maximum loaded trailer weight of 11,700lbs. I planned on using an Anderson WDH with "no-sway". I haven't bought it yet, but will. I used a ProSeries bar unit on my current TT, and it was noisy, heavy, and couldn't back up. Want something better. (http://www.amazon.com/Andersen-3380-Distribution-Universal-Brackets/dp/B006X21BH0).

My truck has AirLift airbags installed too. I do not plan on having anything in the bed of the truck, simply myself, my wife, son, daughter and dog in the cab. In the rear of the toy hauler, I thought any weight REAR of the axles (dirt bikes, boxes, gear, etc.) may reduce the hitch weight, am I grasping on this one? I definitely have no plans to load it up anywhere near the max. I don't own sand rails or quads, just a few motorcycles and normal gear. We keep minimal water in it until we get to close to where we are going, or where we are going directly, then fill 'er up.

My biggest concern right now is the hitch weight on their site shows 1025lbs, I can't say what the ACTUAL hitch weight is on this model, it hasn't been delivered to the dealer yet, but we did sign papers and put $1,000 down.

Am I crazy?
Do I scramble this week to trade my F-150 in on an F-250?
I might add, that I am replacing my 25' TT that weighs about 1/2 dry (4000'ish) and a 500lb hitch weight. I pulled it with ease.


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2012 F-250 6.L Diesel 4x4 Lariat
2016 Forest River WA2916 35' Toy Hauler
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tinner12002
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AMG1978 wrote:
Today I bought a 2016 Forest River Stealth WA2916 toy hauler. I have a 2015 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost, 6.5' bed, 4x4, SuperCrew, MaxTow package, 3.55 axle, 157" wheelbase. ford site: http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/15RV&TT_Ford_F150_r1_Jan12.pdf

My truck shows with a full 36 gallon tank, I have a payload of 1630lbs (with a full tank, @ 300lbs of fuel). Ford.com shows my maximum loaded trailer weight of 11,700lbs. I planned on using an Anderson WDH with "no-sway". I haven't bought it yet, but will. I used a ProSeries bar unit on my current TT, and it was noisy, heavy, and couldn't back up. Want something better. (http://www.amazon.com/Andersen-3380-Distribution-Universal-Brackets/dp/B006X21BH0).

My truck has AirLift airbags installed too. I do not plan on having anything in the bed of the truck, simply myself, my wife, son, daughter and dog in the cab. In the rear of the toy hauler, I thought any weight REAR of the axles (dirt bikes, boxes, gear, etc.) may reduce the hitch weight, am I grasping on this one? I definitely have no plans to load it up anywhere near the max. I don't own sand rails or quads, just a few motorcycles and normal gear. We keep minimal water in it until we get to close to where we are going, or where we are going directly, then fill 'er up.

My biggest concern right now is the hitch weight on their site shows 1025lbs, I can't say what the ACTUAL hitch weight is on this model, it hasn't been delivered to the dealer yet, but we did sign papers and put $1,000 down.

Am I crazy?
Do I scramble this week to trade my F-150 in on an F-250?
I might add, that I am replacing my 25' TT that weighs about 1/2 dry (4000'ish) and a 500lb hitch weight. I pulled it with ease.


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Theres a guy in the neighborhood that pulls a 28ft-30ft 5th wheel with a late model F150...pretty silly looking setup.
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Big1
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Awesome move on the F250, hope you enjoy it.
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SilverEscape
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Good move with the new truck! I almost fell over when I read your post. LOL We're pulling a trailer with a GVWR of 5500# and a 770# tongue weight. With 2 adults and 2 kids totalling 90#, we are at our rear GAWR and almost at payload (we did have the truck bed full, but not with crazy heavy stuff). Our payload was less than yours at 1575# because we have the short box (SuperCrew, EcoBoost with MaxTow) but your trailer is WAY heavier. And the max tongue weight listed on my F-150 was 1150# so I think yours would have been the same.

Have fun with your new toys!
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blt2ski
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Just be carefull none the less. I was at or above gvwr with a 24' TT that sually weighed 6000-6500 on the axels, and 650-750 with the hitch! and I had a 9200 GVWR K3500 SW crew cab diesel. I had all of 2200 lbs of payload to work with, family of 6 weighs in at 1100-1200 when kids were adult sized teens....add in some dogs, other stuff. I had 2200-3000 lbs of stuff on the truck axels!

What is the correct sized truck for a given weight trailer, family size etc, will depend on many items. Not saying your new truck is not enough. But weigh it after it is loaded etc more than once. So you know the heavy side, light side, ave side of what you wiegh etc. I varied from 9000-9600 on truck axels. rear was 4800-5400, front usually 4300-4500.

Also, you do NOT need a cat scale to weigh things. Look in yellow pages or equal, there is more than likely a moving company, landscape supply place, other truck stop, scale on the side of the freeway with in easy distance of your place. I can think of 10-15 scales with in 15 miles of my home etc. NONE of them at cat scales!

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rhagfo
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AMG1978 wrote:
I'm pretty certain you didn't see that I have a F-250 6.7L diesel now.


And now the viscous cycle has started, so easy to pull that 2016 Forest River Stealth WA2916 toy hauler, you will be looking for a bigger trailer.
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AMG1978
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I'm pretty certain you didn't see that I have a F-250 6.7L diesel now.
2012 F-250 6.L Diesel 4x4 Lariat
2016 Forest River WA2916 35' Toy Hauler

taken
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He bought a 250...
Regards, Rodney
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I would not have upgraded the TT until i had the proper TV to pull it with. Now your going out on the road dangerously with to little TV for the TT. Your TV is to light and will start to choke and break down you will be miserable. The smaller tt that you had was a great match. Now you have to trade it in. We waited almost 2 years until we found our 3/4 ton Suburban as the 25ft TT that my Tahoe could pull(1/2ton) were to small for us. Once we got the TV we bought a 27 ft tt and pulled it fo r10yrs like it was nothing. Now we upgraded to e 30ft with slide and aluminum frame. Much heavier and we tow that as well safetly!

Happy Trails.
John, Lisa & Tara:B:C:)
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AMG1978
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We are taking the new trailer on its maiden voyage next weekend. Nothing big, just a RV "resort" as they say, right near the water. We just want to take it out, ensure that everything works in the trailer, if we forget stuff, make notes of what we missed, check everything, test the truck, etc.

Will take a pic and report in soon.
2012 F-250 6.L Diesel 4x4 Lariat
2016 Forest River WA2916 35' Toy Hauler

2112
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Sweet.
Have you towed with her yet? Post a comparison when time allows.
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taken
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Very nice!
Regards, Rodney
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Buzam
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Hell of an upgrade! nice choice
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AMG1978
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FYI folks, last weekend I picked this guy up ๐Ÿ™‚
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2012 F-250 6.L Diesel 4x4 Lariat
2016 Forest River WA2916 35' Toy Hauler

texasAUtiger
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bgum wrote:
You are in a 3/4 ton class.


+1
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