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cmarkj
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Does anyone know what's wrong with the COE website? For the past few months, about 90% of the time I try to go to it, it's down. There is some useful info there that I like to check on from time to time.
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cmarkj
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Very odd now, the site has been up and down the past few weeks, but now since the Mississippi is flooding in the district, and they have to close most of the campgrounds, the site has been up and running and regularly updated.
We got to our favorite COE CG at 7pm Friday evening and were told they might have to close on Sunday, and they would let us know on Saturday sometime. Well, Saturday morning, they let us know we had to get out in the next hour or so. I wish the website had been updated before I left.
Someone getting away with not doing a part of their job when things are running smooth?
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PawPaw_n_Gram
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My 20 years in the Navy was during the dark ages before the internet. The last time I ‘worked’ for the US govt was as a COE volunteer in Connecticut in 2015.

At that time the bureaucracy to change something on a website was extensive.

I was only trying to get some of the info on recreation.gov updated to reflect the current conditions.

One thing I think might be an issue with the current COE and other govt web sites relates to mirrors. I say the problem starting to develop in the retail world back in the 2000s.

The district web site is not in ONE place. There is of course a master, but what you see and what I see might be on different storage servers in different places across the country.

There was a company which was making a fortune in 2006 with their proprietary software to keep those multiple servers and order databases and payment processing all in sync. The company I worked for paid them in the mid to high six figures a year.

‘Cloud’ computing has brought that down to a much lower cost, but has cut back on the quality of the integration and the security of the data. The US govt, especially the military is obsessed with security.

I’ve seen multiple instances of access being denied that results in broken links just because a broken piece of equipment was replaced. On a technical level I can understand it. On a user level it drives me nuts.

And with the current trend to contract out more and more things, I can only see it getting worse.
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cmarkj
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PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
Rock Island District site seems to be working today - but I've also experienced frustration with the conversion of the individual district web sites to all be under the same control / format. There are a lot of broken links in the various sites, and in other agency sites linking to COE sites.


Wierd, it was up yesterday, but the updates were dates March 3rd. A little behind the times.
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PawPaw_n_Gram
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Rock Island District site seems to be working today - but I've also experienced frustration with the conversion of the individual district web sites to all be under the same control / format. There are a lot of broken links in the various sites, and in other agency sites linking to COE sites.
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hotbyte
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Mobile district which is where we most often go seems to be OK. http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/
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cmarkj
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PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
Since the OP is not wanting information on campgrounds, but information on lakes such as water levels, facility closures, etc;

I’ve found the individual COE district websites are the best source.

As an example the Fort Worth district web site closure list told me that five sites at East Fork would be inaccessible for two days during daytime hours last week due to road repairs. One couple who had booked one of those sites were quite upset that they had to move their vehicle to the gate or bathhouse before 8 am, and could not drive back to their site until 6:30 pm each day.

That type information MAY be on the COE district web site. It will never be available on recreation.gov. It will also be too late to be posted on review web sites.

The site the OP is talking about is a portal the COE had available for years to reach district or individual lake websites but has become really flakey since early in 2017.

I’ve noticed individual COE district and lake websites have become less informative about activities such as hunts, commercial projects/ leases and have mostly dropped any information on anything that used to be classed as environmental in the past (invasive plants, animals, cleanups, EIS comments and reports)

They are also in general becoming less informative on recreation activities, especially less information on public comment periods for proposed changes to recreational access, such as leasing of COE parks to commercial operators/ companies.

The COE also used to have a central clearinghouse for volunteer opportunities (and contract gate attendants) available on that website. One could submit a single volunteer application and sent it to several different lakes on that site. Now a person has to submit individual six page applications of mostly duplicate material to each individual project through the Volunteer.gov portal.


I have always gone to the local district. In this case, Rock Island district. Nothing......
Just Safari can't find the server. Any links from other sites for volunteer opportunities, same thing, river levels, same thing. Even links within volunteer.gov aren't working, at least for the Rock Island district.im not sure if it is specific to this district or not
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Every time the Government has shut down due to lack of funding the last few months
the government web sites go down. Also the COE web site has been getting revamped so it goes down then also.
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PawPaw_n_Gram
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Since the OP is not wanting information on campgrounds, but information on lakes such as water levels, facility closures, etc;

I’ve found the individual COE district websites are the best source.

As an example the Fort Worth district web site closure list told me that five sites at East Fork would be inaccessible for two days during daytime hours last week due to road repairs. One couple who had booked one of those sites were quite upset that they had to move their vehicle to the gate or bathhouse before 8 am, and could not drive back to their site until 6:30 pm each day.

That type information MAY be on the COE district web site. It will never be available on recreation.gov. It will also be too late to be posted on review web sites.

The site the OP is talking about is a portal the COE had available for years to reach district or individual lake websites but has become really flakey since early in 2017.

I’ve noticed individual COE district and lake websites have become less informative about activities such as hunts, commercial projects/ leases and have mostly dropped any information on anything that used to be classed as environmental in the past (invasive plants, animals, cleanups, EIS comments and reports)

They are also in general becoming less informative on recreation activities, especially less information on public comment periods for proposed changes to recreational access, such as leasing of COE parks to commercial operators/ companies.

The COE also used to have a central clearinghouse for volunteer opportunities (and contract gate attendants) available on that website. One could submit a single volunteer application and sent it to several different lakes on that site. Now a person has to submit individual six page applications of mostly duplicate material to each individual project through the Volunteer.gov portal.
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monkey44
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Might want to try www.allstays.com -- it's got good info for all types of CG ... You can search type, or area, or private or government ... and it gives some info and contact. We've been using it for years, and never seen it down. Not once.
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cmarkj
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bukhrn wrote:
Are you using this, https://corpslakes.erdc.dren.mil/visitors/visitors.cfm


usage.army.mil It has info on river levels and forecasts, wether campgrounds are open or closed due to flooding, other info on campgrounds, volunteer opportunities etc. the link you gave me to try even has non-working links in it.

And no........I'm not talking about the reservation site. That is for reservations.
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wa8yxm
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I use Recreation.gov
As for what's wrong with any Government website... Sorry Can not tell you .
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Are you using this, https://corpslakes.erdc.dren.mil/visitors/visitors.cfm
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Are you using recreation.gov?
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