ever feel like we need some Japanese RV manufactures

[seaeagle2]

In shopping for our first trailer, and reading the forums, it seems like quality control in RV manufacturing an oxymoron. Kinda like Detroit in the late 60's and early 70's, maybe we could get a Japanese RV manufacturer to enter the US market and shake things up. On the Service issue forum even though CW takes the hit for not being able to fix the stuff, it's the manufacturer that shipped it out that way, modern cars don't get much of a pdi anymore, yet they usually run just fine....

[DutchmenSport]

Sprink-Fitter wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:
Well.... let me add another thought, and I know this will blister some reaction: "Nothing runs like a Deere!" I have 2 of them, and they are the best riding mowers I've ever owned.

What does that have to do with this thread?

Because of i5Trucker's comment. You've gotta read the entire thread. 🙂

[Sprink-Fitter]

DutchmenSport wrote:
Well.... let me add another thought, and I know this will blister some reaction: "Nothing runs like a Deere!" I have 2 of them, and they are the best riding mowers I've ever owned.

What does that have to do with this thread?

[DutchmenSport]

Well.... let me add another thought, and I know this will blister some reaction: "Nothing runs like a Deere!" I have 2 of them, and they are the best riding mowers I've ever owned.

Edit correction: I guess I don't have 2 John Deeres, I have 3 of them:

[Dtank]

seaeagle2 wrote:


In shopping for our first trailer, and reading the forums, it seems like quality control in RV manufacturing an oxymoron.
Kinda like Detroit in the late 60's and early 70's,

maybe we could get a Japanese RV manufacturer to enter the US market and shake things up.

Hmmmmmm........well let's see -

Toyota - has recently reached a 1.2 BILLION dollar settlement to end the probe of accelerator problems....and

faces nearly 400 wrongful death lawsuits.

Then there's the Taakta airbag recalls (7.8 million vehicles and climbing) - along with lots of injury (& death) lawsuits in the works.

Japanese auto mfgrs knew of the problem - including secret "after hours" testing to verify the problem/s - then destroyed the results.

LOTS of sources to verify the above are easy to find - Google is your friend.

Yep - Japanese quality control is top notch!..:S..:R..:(

And, they sure *do* know how to "shake things up"!!..;)

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[Dick_A]

My first RV was an upper end gas coach (Rexhall)that was well built and what few problems were rather easy to fix myself. I did add many options; Banks system, Kenwood Exlaron stereo system, Xantrex Pro2000 inverter and more batteries just to name a few. I was very happy with that unit and the construction; especially the solid hardwood cabinets and at accessing all plumbing and electrical.

The Tiffin coach we purchased just a few years ago was a totally different situation. This coach is very complex and came with every available option.

The first couple of years we experienced several problems including three that were what I would rather service. However, between the dealer, the western Tiffin service representative, and even Bob Tiffin all issues were taken care of very expediently.

Product quality is very much influenced by price level, dealer, and the manufacturer. I have sat in Mr. Tiffins office, visited by phone and also camped next to Bob and his wife before a Redmond Rally. I found Mr. Tiffin very friendly, very honest, and very concerned that hiss customers are happy. He is an honorable and Christian man.

[i5trucker]

Colliehauler, the ones I am referring to are most certainly made in Japan, I pick them up from the docks in Seattle, fresh out of the shipping containers and they have Made in Japan labels on them. They are John Deere and Hitachi.

[qtla9111]

dave54 wrote:

free radical wrote:
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I'd like to know how many employers make sure their workers are drug free..

And how many are U.S. citizens in the country legally.

Well, if you have 12 million illegals in the U.S. they aren't all cutting grass and cleaning houses. They are hired by companies, large companies that know how to skirt around immigration.

And does anybody here actually know the quality of Japanese and Chinese rvs? Seen them first hand, have statistics on quality or failure rates?

[dave54]

free radical wrote:
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I'd like to know how many employers make sure their workers are drug free..

And how many are U.S. citizens in the country legally.

[Mootpoint]

Japanese vehicles are generally German engineered.
Now they are facing the same crunch as everyone else.....make it cheaper... make more profit..

[free_radical]

seaeagle2 wrote:
In shopping for our first trailer, and reading the forums, it seems like quality control in RV manufacturing an oxymoron. Kinda like Detroit in the late 60's and early 70's, maybe we could get a Japanese RV manufacturer to enter the US market and shake things up. On the Service issue forum even though CW takes the hit for not being able to fix the stuff, it's the manufacturer that shipped it out that way, modern cars don't get much of a pdi anymore, yet they usually run just fine....

We don't need japanese manufacturers to show us how's thing done,,all you need to do is hire responsible workers that are not spaced out on drugs when working..

I'd like to know how many employers make sure their workers are drug free..

[westend]

I guess the assumption is that because the Japanese car makers built a better vehicle in 1980 than most US mfg's we should now wish for Japanese made products. It's an interesting view about folk's perception of quality and how that can be tied to a Nation. It's also interesting that the memory of that automobile mfg. situation 35 years ago can hang on and to morph into a belief that Japanese mfg is superior to US or any other Nation.

When I was a kid, anything built in Japan had just the opposite quality connotation attached, it was perceived to be junk goods. Today, many perceive Chinese goods to be of inferior quality.

A sad truth about US shoppers is that we shop by price and not the durability or quality of the item. Our stores are filled with banners proclaiming "Sale" or "Clearance". Go to any other country and this isn't the case. Shoppers inspect very intently at what they're buying and price is a secondary consideration.

[colliehauler]

I wonder how many people who complain about quality own a Newell or Prevost. Wanting high end quality and willing to pay for it are two different things.

If someone figured out a way to build them out of cardboard instead of sawdust and undercut the price by 30% there would be people that would buy them, and complain about the quality.

[Jaxom]

Every time I think of December 7th, 1941 I sure wish we had more Japanese stuff.

[consumeratlarge]

I laughed out loud when I read this topic title. No question that I've seen many examples of quality control issues. Then again, when I pack just a few dozen things for a trip, I often forget something that I should have put on the list. So, if a worker forgets to tighten the compression fitting on my shower and it floods the inside of the motorhome or something like that, (ask me how I know), it is just human.

Although, at aerospace facilities in the USA, they have inspections, checklists, control over where each part comes from, phase tests... But, price point wouldn't really allow that, I imagine, in the low end stuff I've owned. And I probably wouldn't have gotten my first motorhome if it wasn't so enticingly cheap to buy (used). But I do remember wondering if sawdust shaped and pressed into plywood sheets was a good thing to use in a vehicle that will likely have leaks inside and out.

The buses and semi's I've seen made here are pretty darn heavy duty and well made. And I'll probably never own one because of the price, so I guess it's supply and demand.

[Terryallan]

Do remember. If they were made by the Japanese. there would be nothing but recalls, and in truth. Japanese quality is not what you think it is. It is in fact beginning to trail US quality.

So no I don't want a Japanese anything