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Homeless migration to RVs creating problems

Durb
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There seems to be a trend for the homeless to get an old RV and live on the streets. County officials admit their hands are are tied as they do not have proper laws in place to deal with the problem. Nor do they have the proper funds. Our county estimates it costs $3,000 to tow and salvage an abandoned RV. Private landowners with RVers squatting on their property are also having problems. Towing companies will not remove the rigs as they know they won't get paid.

It looks to be a growing problem without an easy financial solution. Will we start seeing salvage taxes on our RV registration renewals?
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TechWriter
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Explorer
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.


How not hardly? How so?

You have a ton of preconceived notions, many of which are based on common stereotypes.
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lakeside013104
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This is a very interesting thread with some outstanding opinions.
Thank you to those that have done this; taking the time to give thoughtful posts.

Lakeside

Cloud_Dancer
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We all do NOT have the same IQ, nor the same opportunities.
It's better for me not to argue this.
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jplante4
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lots2seeinmyrv wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.


How not hardly? How so?


Read this from Forbes.
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bid_time
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westernrvparkowner wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.


How not hardly? How so?

They do not have a brain to think for themselves? Stay out of trouble? We have access to so much information on the internet than ever before. Is ignorance an excuse now, gee "I didn't know"?

No will to pay attention in school? No access to teachers or counselors in our schools? No books to study? Go to Church for support? No opportunity to choose their friends wisely and stay out of trouble?

No opportunity to work one job? Two jobs to get ahead? Get roommates to save money? I did that much of my life.

Volunteer? Use the Library? Use the many programs available to help people? Get counseling?

People do not have access to birth control?

No access to school, community college?

No opportunity to joining the military as a means to get out of a bad situation, earn a paycheck, have a bed, a meal, and training? No opportunity to join the Reserves for extra income? And yes, I did that too. Both active duty and reserves AND worked 40 hour work week and took classes at night.

No access to move anywhere in this country for work and better living conditions? I have moved over 28 times back and forth all across this country in my life for jobs. Not by choice, for survival.

Pull the poor me card? The race card? I also lived in the projects with my single mother that had 3 kids after our father left us. Guess we could have just stayed there the last 50 years and say we had "no opportunity" to get out and created 3 more generations of kids on the government dole.

This is the greatest country on Earth, "not hardly" excuse does not cut it, neither does "poor me" anymore.
Accepting this as factual requires people to accept personal responsibility for their failures in life. Isn't going to happen.
No, it's much easier just to tax the people that made something out of their life.

westernrvparkow
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Explorer
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.


How not hardly? How so?

They do not have a brain to think for themselves? Stay out of trouble? We have access to so much information on the internet than ever before. Is ignorance an excuse now, gee "I didn't know"?

No will to pay attention in school? No access to teachers or counselors in our schools? No books to study? Go to Church for support? No opportunity to choose their friends wisely and stay out of trouble?

No opportunity to work one job? Two jobs to get ahead? Get roommates to save money? I did that much of my life.

Volunteer? Use the Library? Use the many programs available to help people? Get counseling?

People do not have access to birth control?

No access to school, community college?

No opportunity to joining the military as a means to get out of a bad situation, earn a paycheck, have a bed, a meal, and training? No opportunity to join the Reserves for extra income? And yes, I did that too. Both active duty and reserves AND worked 40 hour work week and took classes at night.

No access to move anywhere in this country for work and better living conditions? I have moved over 28 times back and forth all across this country in my life for jobs. Not by choice, for survival.

Pull the poor me card? The race card? I also lived in the projects with my single mother that had 3 kids after our father left us. Guess we could have just stayed there the last 50 years and say we had "no opportunity" to get out and created 3 more generations of kids on the government dole.

This is the greatest country on Earth, "not hardly" excuse does not cut it, neither does "poor me" anymore.
Accepting this as factual requires people to accept personal responsibility for their failures in life. Isn't going to happen.

lots2seeinmyrv
Explorer
Explorer
CA Traveler wrote:
$22T debt/327M people = $67,000 debt for every person and double that for working adults.


Now triple that debt with all the "free" stuff these imbeciles want to give away.

327M people and climbing with the 4 million pouring in, year after year after year, and their offspring they have while the numbers soar.

We will never recover from this.

lots2seeinmyrv
Explorer
Explorer
TechWriter wrote:
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.


How not hardly? How so?

They do not have a brain to think for themselves? Stay out of trouble? We have access to so much information on the internet than ever before. Is ignorance an excuse now, gee "I didn't know"?

No will to pay attention in school? No access to teachers or counselors in our schools? No books to study? Go to Church for support? No opportunity to choose their friends wisely and stay out of trouble?

No opportunity to work one job? Two jobs to get ahead? Get roommates to save money? I did that much of my life.

Volunteer? Use the Library? Use the many programs available to help people? Get counseling?

People do not have access to birth control?

No access to school, community college?

No opportunity to joining the military as a means to get out of a bad situation, earn a paycheck, have a bed, a meal, and training? No opportunity to join the Reserves for extra income? And yes, I did that too. Both active duty and reserves AND worked 40 hour work week and took classes at night.

No access to move anywhere in this country for work and better living conditions? I have moved over 28 times back and forth all across this country in my life for jobs. Not by choice, for survival.

Pull the poor me card? The race card? I also lived in the projects with my single mother that had 3 kids after our father left us. Guess we could have just stayed there the last 50 years and say we had "no opportunity" to get out and created 3 more generations of kids on the government dole.

This is the greatest country on Earth, "not hardly" excuse does not cut it, neither does "poor me" anymore.

TomG2
Explorer
Explorer
This has turned into a "Haves against the Have Nots" thread. Take out the people that inherited or married their fortune and there will be a lot less of the "Haves". Deduct the "Being in the right place at the right time" crowd and fewer yet will remain. Ignore those who were born on third base and thought they had hit a triple people folks. The few that remain are unlikely to put down their less fortunate neighbors. In fact, they might try to help them.

CA_Traveler
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$22T debt/327M people = $67,000 debt for every person and double that for working adults.
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TechWriter
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Explorer
lots2seeinmyrv wrote:

We all have the same opportunities in this country.

Not hardly.
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lots2seeinmyrv
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goducks10 wrote:
Anyone old enough to remember when it only took one income to buy a house, car, feed the kids and enjoy life?
Now it's pretty much mandatory that there be two incomes. So which came 1st, high prices or two income families?



Two incomes due to buying too much "stuff", new cars, cars for the kid, college, sports, large homes, 6 cell phones, laptops, vacations, RVs, boats, TV in every room, new clothes, nails done, internet, Direct TV, eat out all the time, shop, shop, shop, instant gratification, mired in debt.

Also, high school kids worked for their extra money, and did chores. We did not get much allowance or everything we wanted not like today, we worked.

Keep buying all that "stuff" and you need 3 incomes.

I remember wearing hand me down clothes, mom shopping at garage sales for furniture, etc.

It is expensive to live in this country and we cannot continue to allow millions upon millions of foreigners and their offspring come here and pay their bills out of our wallets too.

No wonder we are broke and people on the verge of homelessness and our local and state budgets are shot, schools in disrepair and teachers cannot make ends meet, overcrowded classes. Healthcare costs through the roof and they pay nothing...WE pay for that too.

We cannot pay our own bills. How do wages rise if we keep bringing in "cheap" labor by the millions and they cannot afford medical, housing, school, food, etc. This is absurd.

22 trillion in debt but let's shell out the free stuff here and all across the world 😞

goducks10
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Explorer
Anyone old enough to remember when it only took one income to buy a house, car, feed the kids and enjoy life?
Now it's pretty much mandatory that there be two incomes. So which came 1st, high prices or two income families?

lots2seeinmyrv
Explorer
Explorer
JRscooby wrote:
For the good people that are so opposed to giving "free stuff" to the undeserving. Do you ever compare need? Now some members may think I'm aiming at them. So if you think it might sting do not look at your own taxes, check the value of your deductions!
For example, do you think somebody earning a taxable income over $600,000.00 a year needs help from the government to keep a roof over their head?
Same somebody owes $5,000,000 on their house and is paying 2% interest on their home loan. That interest is $100,000 right? That is $100,000 the home owner does not need to pay the 37% tax on. Using the $600 month rent that was thrown at me, that deduction would rent 5 apartments for a year.
Now I know my numbers my be off, and I'm sure the calculations are simplistic. But I bet if you where to plug in your real numbers you will need to force your eyes closed...



Why do you think it is taxpayers responsibility to go to work everyday, make responsible decisions in their lives, sacrifice, only to have the government take our money and give "free" stuff to those who do not make the effort?

And minimum wage was never meant to raise a family of 4-6. Those jobs are entry level, learn responsibility, and move up the ladder. People do not think, or wait, to have a family before they can afford it.

That is their decision. Everyone else should not suffer or pay for their decisions they made. Why should we be forced to pay for someone else's family when they should have waited until THEY can afford it? People are free to romp in the sack, just stop making everybody else pay for their night of fun, over and over and over again. This is the most absurd thing I have ever heard of. Get on birth control.

Many people would have larger families but they cannot afford it, and do not want to live off of handouts and off the backs of others. That is called be an adult, responsible, integrity, morals, and live within their means.

Being down on your luck, loss of job, disable, temporary help is one thing. And no one denies giving a hand up in those circumstances.

Generations of living on the dole is another. It is a way of life now in this country with no accountability. Take the free stuff while driving your SUV, nails done, talking on your Apple phone.

Half the country working to pay for the welfare and food stamps and free stuff for the other half is a serious problem and so is this mentality.

People choose to drink, do drugs, have 6 kids...they do it to themselves. No one forces them.

We have our own families, rent, food, and bills to pay. So take our food off our table and money out of our wallets for lifelong takers? No. Trying to save our money, for our future, that I guess, we do not "deserve" only to pay for others?

Opposed to giving free stuff to the "undeserving"??? No one said anybody is "undeserving". They deserve to have education, a job, a safe environment to live. They throw those opportunities away with bad choices. Nothing is free.

We all have the same opportunities in this country. It is your personal responsibility to use them to your advantage or not. Do taxpayers "deserve" to have their paychecks taxed against their will? No they do not.

bid_time
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fj12ryder wrote:
"In 2016, the top 10% of taxpayers paid 70% of all taxes." Actually he exaggerated, it was 69.47%
How much of the overall income percentage did those top 10% corral? 46.56%
Earn huge amounts, pay large amounts of taxes. And how much, percentage-wise, did those top 10% pay in tax compared actual income? 21.19%, as compared to 3.73% for the bottom 50%
The income split point to be in the top 10% is $139,713.00. Which begs the question that was never answered > "What is the right number? 90%? 100% ?"

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