Information Discussion for Gate Guards

[mdbass]

Thought I'd start a new topic for Gate Guards to use for comments. Like the moderator suggested-keep technical stuff, recipes, mechanical, etc. where they belong. Lets hear from everyone sucking down that caliche dust.

[daverich]

Question about non-potable water. I have seen gate guard ads that say so many gallons of non-potable water. I know what non-potable water is.

I am guessing you use it for the toilet and showers. Now you have it in your water system. I guess when you a finished you can sanitize with bleach. But I don't like the idea of having it in the pipe in the first place.

What am I missing here?

Thanks.

[glenntwo]

Heh, I see what you did there.

[ol_Bombero-JC]

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"Nowhere" is a *very* long commute..:W

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[glenntwo]

Mfar1234 wrote:
Ok, as dangerous as it is that i may get my head bitten off I gotta ask.

"If they have been breaking the law since 2009 or so - and it has reached several million dollars." Would it make sense to say that "maybe they are not breaking the law?"

I think you may be right on that. Having had experience with being a 1099 sub (in another line of work), I don't see any problem with this being legal. I think it helps if you look at the job as being more of a "piecework" or salary type job instead of as an hourly one.

On the subject of getting a massive tax bill from the IRS? They can't tax you for money you didn't make. However, if you do get a cash settlement for lost wages (not very likely IMO), they are entitled. I would treat that as icing on the cake and give the guv their cut and let it go.

And if you can't find enough write-offs for that 1099 to make it look like you are just breaking even, then you and your tax person aren't trying hard enough.

And i may be stating the obvious, but here's one more thought: You have to consider the use of a generator, water and septic as part of your wage package. When you do that, I think the total package comes more into line with what would normally be expected. AT 70-100 a day for a FHU pull-through spot in most places, I would say that free water electric and sewer plus 125-175/day is a pretty nice deal. Not as nice as the company getting 450-500/day for putting a guard out there, but they have to make their money too, and without them you wouldn't be on the gate, and even if you were, you would have to provide your own amenities. Leasing a gen and a honey wagon ain't cheap, and it probably takes a long time to make the contacts to line a job like this up, so I figure its a wash.

All things considered, I wouldn't mind dropping what I do now and doing a little GG'ing for maybe 10 months a year. Sounds like easy money and I don't have to commute thousands of miles like I do now.

[glenntwo]

Are there many job openings in LA? What are the licensing requirements? I'm kinda headed in that direction and could get there pretty quick if a company needs a single that wants to work.

[Don_Shar]

abusman40 wrote:

Don/Shar wrote:

The Texan wrote:

Don/Shar wrote:
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This was Halliburton Fracing.....the biggest one in business. They don't even feed their own men. We had a couple meals but from the crew putting the tanks and pipes. Believe me I don't want to be on the pad with the frac happening and the sand castles about 30 foot from us. Very loud and dusty. The noise wasn't too bad inside (we are really good insulated) but ouitside wow. Didn't have a problem sleeping.....1 at a time. Tomorrow night I will have my wife back in my bed.

We had a gate in LA with Shell/Halliburton and they did cater. They ran 2 shifts and had catering for each shift. We had more food than we could handle.

Well Halliburton here did not cater....I asked one of the workers and they told me Halliburton was cutting back on everything. We now have coil tubing in and they had a caterer one day....great steaks. When we were in Artesia Wells the fracing crew was Weatherford and they catered twice a day, had some really good meals there.

[abusman40]

Don/Shar wrote:

The Texan wrote:

Don/Shar wrote:
Y

This was Halliburton Fracing.....the biggest one in business. They don't even feed their own men. We had a couple meals but from the crew putting the tanks and pipes. Believe me I don't want to be on the pad with the frac happening and the sand castles about 30 foot from us. Very loud and dusty. The noise wasn't too bad inside (we are really good insulated) but ouitside wow. Didn't have a problem sleeping.....1 at a time. Tomorrow night I will have my wife back in my bed.

We had a gate in LA with Shell/Halliburton and they did cater. They ran 2 shifts and had catering for each shift. We had more food than we could handle.

[The_Texan]

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[belcherlj]

Dose any one have any contact info for possible jobs doing this??
Thanks
easyout

[Don_Shar]

The Texan wrote:

Don/Shar wrote:
You are very welcome.....the frac is over and they are moving out.....HHOOOOOray.

How well did they feed you??? That is the best perk of fracing.....:B

They are laying down our rig in about 2 weeks, for the remainder of hunting season. We have a whole bunch of holes waiting fracing, but don't know how they are going to handle it during hunting season. May be a very quiet 3 months.....LOL.

This was Halliburton Fracing.....the biggest one in business. They don't even feed their own men. We had a couple meals but from the crew putting the tanks and pipes. Believe me I don't want to be on the pad with the frac happening and the sand castles about 30 foot from us. Very loud and dusty. The noise wasn't too bad inside (we are really good insulated) but ouitside wow. Didn't have a problem sleeping.....1 at a time. Tomorrow night I will have my wife back in my bed.

[The_Texan]

Don/Shar wrote:
You are very welcome.....the frac is over and they are moving out.....HHOOOOOray.

How well did they feed you??? That is the best perk of fracing.....:B

They are laying down our rig in about 2 weeks, for the remainder of hunting season. We have a whole bunch of holes waiting fracing, but don't know how they are going to handle it during hunting season. May be a very quiet 3 months.....LOL.

[Don_Shar]

You are very welcome.....the frac is over and they are moving out.....HHOOOOOray.

[H345]

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Don , Thanks for posting the photos !

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[Don_Shar]

Well we are sitting pretty good. Nice lot, no snakes to be seen, of course we have seen no wild life either. We can keep the gate open all the time as we are fenced off all the way around, no one here but the two of us. Paved road, paved entrance to the lot WOW.


30 days really makes a big change....the frac crew moved in next door "RIGHT NEXT DOOR" the traffic is non-stop, but it will be over in another 24 hours....thank heaven. Don't want to be right on the pad next time we have a frac crew.



Before anyone gets all hyper about these photo's I did get permission to post these non imposeing pictures. I just thought they were interesting.

[GGup]

We plan to go to work the end of this month or early Nov for GGS. Have been treated very well and some changes for the better have happened in the Western district to make all happier.

Not saying other are not good or as good but we have worked for over two years with them and plan to stay. We do hope they up the daily rate but for the time being we will stay and just try and ask for more!!!