Lemon Laws, some things may be changing

[wanderingaimles]

Just had a new item pop up on You tube.
The RV show on there had a segment on lemon laws, and apparently a case in Illinois has signaled something that may become more frequent.
Dealers failures to PDI units upon arrival at the dealership may place onus on them for repairs.
Interesting clip for any who are interested.
You tube

This is one case in one state, but apparently involves a sales law that is common in most states and is outside the specific "lemon laws" pertaining to vehicles.

[JRscooby]

Charlie D. wrote:

Agree with everything you say but the manufacturer would then send to dealers who don't return units or bellyache. The manufacturers would possibly delay parts for repairs since the dealers blame them anyway. Dealers who don't complain would be the preferred sellers
for them.

Yes, the dealer might have more trouble getting units, but could the preferred dealer rebuild all the units?

Never ending circle for buyers who are trapped.

NO! Nobody needs a new RV. Buyers, as a class, could fix the problem if they could drag their heads out from between the cheeks, and put back on their shoulders.

Lwiddis wrote:
JR, be careful talking to potential buyers about your repair issues on the dealer’s lot. Your license to be there does not include that conduct.

Back in '88 the dealer had my brand new pickup for 2 weeks, because "We are waiting for parts" Manager said if I didn't shut up they would call police. Friend pointed out a news van was closer than cops. Next thing I knew they had the part on another vehicle that had not sold yet. If one person was throwing a fit, he might have problems. But I think the buyers out number the dealers, and dealers out number the manufacturers. But dealers and manufacturers both need money, and the only source of that money is the buyers

[schlep1967]

We are creeping off topic a little here but ...
What many don't realize is there are many small, privately owner RV shops out there looking for work. These guys rely on return customers as they don't have nearly unlimited advertising money some of the larger corporate groups do. A quick call to the manufacturer and you will most likely find that any RV repair shop can do the work as long as it is pre-approved.

[Lwiddis]

JR, be careful talking to potential buyers about your repair issues on the dealer’s lot. Your license to be there does not include that conduct.

[SidecarFlip]

Not going to hold my breath on that.

[Charlie_D_]

JRscooby wrote:
If the dealer can't do the repair when the factory is paying, how can it get fixed at dealers cost?
But a inspection when it gets to the dealer would be a good thing. After all, a truck load of watermelons gets to a Wal-Mart distribution center, do not meet standards, the load is rejected. If the RV hauler pulled out the gate back to factory, or better, to one of the places that re-sell damaged freight at a discount, QC at the factory would go up a bunch.
IMHO, another way to improve quality would be stop the bullsnot of leaving your RV at the dealer for as long as they want to take for warranty repairs. After say 3 days, stop in to check on the work. Not ready? Spend some time talking to anybody that might be shopping for RV about your problem. Next day, repeat. If the dealer sees people walking out with their money still in their pocket a fire my get built in service, or Hey factory, I can't sell this snot!

Agree with everything you say but the manufacturer would then send to dealers who don't return units or bellyache. The manufacturers would possibly delay parts for repairs since the dealers blame them anyway. Dealers who don't complain would be the preferred sellers
for them.

From reading this and other forums I see that far to many buyers are not educated enough on buying and receiving warranty work, don't realize that many dealers refuse to work on units they don't sell and often think that warranty is as simple and quick as an auto buyer.

Never ending circle for buyers who are trapped.

[T18skyguy]

It's long overdue in my opinion. Maybe they'll clean up their shoddy workmanship and start taking their customers seriously.

[JRscooby]

If the dealer can't do the repair when the factory is paying, how can it get fixed at dealers cost?
But a inspection when it gets to the dealer would be a good thing. After all, a truck load of watermelons gets to a Wal-Mart distribution center, do not meet standards, the load is rejected. If the RV hauler pulled out the gate back to factory, or better, to one of the places that re-sell damaged freight at a discount, QC at the factory would go up a bunch.
IMHO, another way to improve quality would be stop the bullsnot of leaving your RV at the dealer for as long as they want to take for warranty repairs. After say 3 days, stop in to check on the work. Not ready? Spend some time talking to anybody that might be shopping for RV about your problem. Next day, repeat. If the dealer sees people walking out with their money still in their pocket a fire my get built in service, or Hey factory, I can't sell this snot!