โFeb-08-2021 04:44 PM
โFeb-17-2021 04:49 AM
BobsYourUncle wrote:
Nice you finally got it figured out!
Feel good doesn't it?
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โFeb-16-2021 06:52 PM
โFeb-16-2021 04:50 PM
โFeb-12-2021 06:24 AM
Lynnmor wrote:
Not going to respond to all that "stuff", but here is just one item:
Hairline heat cracks are normal in bonded linings and should not be cause for concern.
This can be found on page 16.
โFeb-12-2021 05:02 AM
Gdetrailer wrote:
It is why when a inspection mechanic told me that the found a crack in one of the brake shoes, I CHANGED ALL of the backing plates even though the brake lining was good on the other axles..
โFeb-12-2021 02:56 AM
cummins2014 wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
Are we talking commercial here, I have a feeling some responses are talking commercial ,and not recreational Rv's here ,especially this skidding tire thing .
PA treats ALL trailers 3,001 lbs AND ABOVE THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL TRAILERS FOR SAFETY INSPECTION INCLUDING RV TRAILERS AND ARE SUBJECT TO HAVING TO PASS ALL INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT OF THAT TRAILER.
Brakes MUST work (visual check and operational check), breakaway MUST work (visual and operational check), outside safety lighting MUST WORK, TIRES must pass min tread depth, frame MUST not be rusted out or damaged.
3,000 lbs and under do not have a electric brake requirement and do not need a annual safety inspection.
Just because it is a RV, you don't get a free hall pass on safety inspection.
Just curious. not required in the state of Utah. It was sounding a bit commercial .
โFeb-11-2021 05:35 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
Are we talking commercial here, I have a feeling some responses are talking commercial ,and not recreational Rv's here ,especially this skidding tire thing .
PA treats ALL trailers 3,001 lbs AND ABOVE THE SAME AS COMMERCIAL TRAILERS FOR SAFETY INSPECTION INCLUDING RV TRAILERS AND ARE SUBJECT TO HAVING TO PASS ALL INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT OF THAT TRAILER.
Brakes MUST work (visual check and operational check), breakaway MUST work (visual and operational check), outside safety lighting MUST WORK, TIRES must pass min tread depth, frame MUST not be rusted out or damaged.
3,000 lbs and under do not have a electric brake requirement and do not need a annual safety inspection.
Just because it is a RV, you don't get a free hall pass on safety inspection.
โFeb-11-2021 03:58 PM
cummins2014 wrote:
Are we talking commercial here, I have a feeling some responses are talking commercial ,and not recreational Rv's here ,especially this skidding tire thing .
โFeb-11-2021 03:47 PM
Lynnmor wrote:Gdetrailer wrote:
Only pulling the trailer forwards or backwards will show just how good the brakes are working. In fact that IS one of the "tests" that my State Inspection mechanic does..
I've had trailers inspected in PA since 1977, and never once seen anyone do the pull test on brakes.
โFeb-11-2021 01:37 PM
cummins2014 wrote:
Are we talking commercial here, I have a feeling some responses are talking commercial ,and not recreational Rv's here ,especially this skidding tire thing .
โFeb-11-2021 01:34 PM
Gdetrailer wrote:
Only pulling the trailer forwards or backwards will show just how good the brakes are working. In fact that IS one of the "tests" that my State Inspection mechanic does..
โFeb-11-2021 12:06 PM
JRscooby wrote:
On 1 of my posts that was deleted, I mentioned state DOT has a quick, dirty non-harmful way to decide if the electrical part of brake system is working; Hold a magnetic compass below center, next to hub, apply brakes.
How many pages ago I apparently pooped in the oatmeal when I gave my opinion about what happens when somebody assumes "this part is good". At least the OP has not stripped things down, just lots of typing.
โFeb-11-2021 12:02 PM
โFeb-11-2021 11:43 AM
Gdetrailer wrote:cummins2014 wrote:
Let me rephrase a little bit here , I don't care what is going on with my brakes ,I am not going to pull the breakaway ,and drag my fifth wheel or trailer one inch across anything to see if the brakes are working ,its not SMART . Come on ,think about the stress on the axles ,springs ,tires etc. There are much better ways ,a drive test for one , to see how the brakes are working . .
Your knowledge is based on a fear, not understanding or knowledge.
A fear of "damaging" the trailer, suspension, tires, truck, controller..
That is not knowledge, that is FEAR of the unknown of what you don't understand, know or are assuming.
You will definitely not harm or damage your trailer, your axles, your wheels just by pulling the breakaway pin and pulling forward one or two feet at extremely low speed (less than 1 MPH).. It isn't like you would do this like a race car driver..
If that small action harms your trailer, it was not built to proper specs with properly rated components for the max load of the trailer..
If on grass, you effectively have very little traction, tires will skid way before anything could ever possibly harmed.
If on gravel, same as grass, gravel moves and wheels don't spin free..
On pavement, take only slightly more effort but the tires WILL break traction way before you will cause harm.
Your trailer suspension takes a heck of a lot more abuse than what it will get from locking and sliding the wheels for one or two feet at a extremely slow speed.
As I mentioned, it IS something that my PA inspection mechanic MUST do in order to get a inspection sticker.. So far, out of three different trailers with brakes that procedure has not caused any damage to trailer, tires, suspension and one of the trailers is well over 30 yrs old!
You DO also realize that your trailer tires and suspension MUST "hop" when making extreme tight turns? The hole suspension pulls sideways one even two inches until the tire with least traction cannot hold the road anymore it breaks traction and the hole suspension snaps back into place.. It will do that over and over as long as you are making a tight radius turn..
Pulling forward slightly with virtually no speed will put far less "stress" on your trailer, axles, suspension, tires than under normal driving conditions..
You are more than welcome to continue doing it your way but, do realize there ARE safe "other ways" to do a check of the brakes/breakaway system that doesn't require using a jack or jacking up all of the tires one at a time.
And I will mention again, just because you can stop a wheel in the air with the breakaway activated, it is possible to do that even when the brakes are not adjusted properly and will not hold the trailer when doing this by hand.
The ONLY way to know for sure is to TEST the brakes functionality by putting them under a load like using your vehicle to pull forward or backward.
Knowledge is key, fears of unknowns is fear, not knowledge.