Perhaps one should practice a little.

[Ralph_Cramden]

That's Entertainment. A huge shiny Airstream arrived being pulled by a new GMC 2500 Duramax at the campground shortly before dark. They had reserved a pull through dorectly across from us. Nothing is close to level in the campground.

10 trys to get the trailer on some blocks to do his side to side leveling. Its tough when you pull up with the truck at a 45 degree angle to trailer, set the blocks, then attempt to back onto them. I offered to help and was told no thanks, rather unpolitely I might add.

So after 11 tries and much husband and wife arguing, they gave up and switched sites to a back in. A half dozen tries and a full hour and a half after arrival later. Oh brother. This guy is actually on the highway with other vehicles around?

[jplante4]

LOL This is like 6 different threads all going at once.

And now they're all CLOSED

[Oldmaple]

Have had a travel trailer for over twenty years. Been working in a business that uses trailers (all bumper pulls) for over 35 years. I am very good at backing up trailers. Looking to switch to a fifth wheel for our retirement trailer and I understand that backing up a fifth wheel is different than a bumper pull. Will definitely do some practicing before heading out. Don't want to be part of the show. If you see me swiping my fifth wheel down the side of a tree, come help, please. I might not be in a very good mood though.

[toedtoes]

et2 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
No one is injecting assumptions. No one knows how the OP approached the person or how they responded. The above were examples of personal experiences explaining why someone may not be appreciative of "help".

LOL. You talk in circles.

Nothing circular about it.

[mdcamping]

rockhillmanor wrote:

ReneeG wrote:
In my opinion, one of the worst things one can do is offer help in a situation like this,

unless you are at an RV park and you are guided to your spot. ""Sometimes"" these people are very helpful. Each has to learn on their own and make their own mistakes. .....

Respectively disagree with you on that one!! :B

Pulled into Kentucky Horse Park late at night MH towing, They gave me an RV park guide. Pitch black out. He was on foot walking and I faithfully followed him like a puppy dog right into a campsite meant for a 10 foot popup! AND there after I turned was a concrete bumper at the end of the site staring at me!

I ended up with my 31ft MH, and toad at a 45 degree angle pins jammed tight. Couldn't move forward and couldn't back up.

He did apologize and then offered to help me. Can't all remember what I said to him I'm sure it wasn't nice cause he disappeared into the night in a nano second.

That was the night I learned about what an extended socket wrench
and a hammer can be used for. :B

With every example where a guide doesn't work there will be one that does. :C

I have poor night vision, about 10 yrs ago we got in late to a campground that was hilly, had tight turns and was heavily wooded.
If it wasn't for the guide no way in hell would I have made the site. For us we had a straight pull through site... that worked out well.

Mike

[rockhillmanor]

ReneeG wrote:
In my opinion, one of the worst things one can do is offer help in a situation like this,

unless you are at an RV park and you are guided to your spot. ""Sometimes"" these people are very helpful. Each has to learn on their own and make their own mistakes. .....

Respectively disagree with you on that one!! :B

Pulled into Kentucky Horse Park late at night MH towing, They gave me an RV park guide. Pitch black out. He was on foot walking and I faithfully followed him like a puppy dog right into a campsite meant for a 10 foot popup! AND there after I turned was a concrete bumper at the end of the site staring at me!

I ended up with my 31ft MH, and toad at a 45 degree angle pins jammed tight. Couldn't move forward and couldn't back up.

He did apologize and then offered to help me. Can't all remember what I said to him I'm sure it wasn't nice cause he disappeared into the night in a nano second.

That was the night I learned about what an extended socket wrench
and a hammer can be used for. :B

[et2]

toedtoes wrote:
No one is injecting assumptions. No one knows how the OP approached the person or how they responded. The above were examples of personal experiences explaining why someone may not be appreciative of "help".

LOL. You talk in circles.

[toedtoes]

No one is injecting assumptions. No one knows how the OP approached the person or how they responded. The above were examples of personal experiences explaining why someone may not be appreciative of "help".

[et2]

toedtoes wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:

2gypsies wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:
When we first got our 5er (our second camper, previous was a bumper pull), we took it on a maiden voyage to a campground not too far from our house. Getting into the pull through spot was not an issue, but getting out sure was, because of some ill placed boulders and a tree. The older folks at the site next to us just sat there staring at us struggling (I literally used our dogs leashes to pull a tree branch down to try to avoid as much damage on the camper as possible). Then when I looked over at him he offered to help, but also laughed and said that was why he kept his old (which was a 1960s tiny bumper pull) trailer. I declined his assistance because I thought he was being a jerk.

So, maybe it was your approach. We are younger (mid 30s), and I've found many older RVers have a holier than thou attitude when talking to us, like we somehow are stupid because we are young.

And, as mentioned, that trip was a learning experience, as it was intended to be. We learned what kind of sites would work, and how to scope them out ahead of time to know what we could handle with our size trailer. We also purchased tree trimmers and put a taller step ladder in the trailer.

I can't see why the old guy offended you. He sat and watched at first as many of us of all ages would do because nowadays folks are afraid to intrude. Many people don't want to admit they need help. Then he offered his help and you refused. He laughed and said that's why he keeps his old RV. That had absolutely nothing against you. He was trying to help and then tried in include some humor.

It was the way/tone he offered the help. Just like this OP may have offered the help in a condescending way. Just saying, I know how it feels to be on that end of things, and it's not fun, and having someone approach you sounding "holier than thou" doesn't help matters.

And when you're already stressed, it's hard to ignore a condescending attitude and feel grateful.

So now you inject assumption into the scenario? People are just making stuff up... Let it go.

[Lantley]

JAC1982 wrote:

2gypsies wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:
When we first got our 5er (our second camper, previous was a bumper pull), we took it on a maiden voyage to a campground not too far from our house. Getting into the pull through spot was not an issue, but getting out sure was, because of some ill placed boulders and a tree. The older folks at the site next to us just sat there staring at us struggling (I literally used our dogs leashes to pull a tree branch down to try to avoid as much damage on the camper as possible). Then when I looked over at him he offered to help, but also laughed and said that was why he kept his old (which was a 1960s tiny bumper pull) trailer. I declined his assistance because I thought he was being a jerk.

So, maybe it was your approach. We are younger (mid 30s), and I've found many older RVers have a holier than thou attitude when talking to us, like we somehow are stupid because we are young.

And, as mentioned, that trip was a learning experience, as it was intended to be. We learned what kind of sites would work, and how to scope them out ahead of time to know what we could handle with our size trailer. We also purchased tree trimmers and put a taller step ladder in the trailer.

I can't see why the old guy offended you. He sat and watched at first as many of us of all ages would do because nowadays folks are afraid to intrude. Many people don't want to admit they need help. Then he offered his help and you refused. He laughed and said that's why he keeps his old RV. That had absolutely nothing against you. He was trying to help and then tried in include some humor.

It was the way/tone he offered the help. Just like this OP may have offered the help in a condescending way. Just saying, I know how it feels to be on that end of things, and it's not fun, and having someone approach you sounding "holier than thou" doesn't help matters.

What your saying is he offered to help in the wrong tone?:h

[toedtoes]

JAC1982 wrote:

2gypsies wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:
When we first got our 5er (our second camper, previous was a bumper pull), we took it on a maiden voyage to a campground not too far from our house. Getting into the pull through spot was not an issue, but getting out sure was, because of some ill placed boulders and a tree. The older folks at the site next to us just sat there staring at us struggling (I literally used our dogs leashes to pull a tree branch down to try to avoid as much damage on the camper as possible). Then when I looked over at him he offered to help, but also laughed and said that was why he kept his old (which was a 1960s tiny bumper pull) trailer. I declined his assistance because I thought he was being a jerk.

So, maybe it was your approach. We are younger (mid 30s), and I've found many older RVers have a holier than thou attitude when talking to us, like we somehow are stupid because we are young.

And, as mentioned, that trip was a learning experience, as it was intended to be. We learned what kind of sites would work, and how to scope them out ahead of time to know what we could handle with our size trailer. We also purchased tree trimmers and put a taller step ladder in the trailer.

I can't see why the old guy offended you. He sat and watched at first as many of us of all ages would do because nowadays folks are afraid to intrude. Many people don't want to admit they need help. Then he offered his help and you refused. He laughed and said that's why he keeps his old RV. That had absolutely nothing against you. He was trying to help and then tried in include some humor.

It was the way/tone he offered the help. Just like this OP may have offered the help in a condescending way. Just saying, I know how it feels to be on that end of things, and it's not fun, and having someone approach you sounding "holier than thou" doesn't help matters.

And when you're already stressed, it's hard to ignore a condescending attitude and feel grateful.

[JAC1982]

2gypsies wrote:

JAC1982 wrote:
When we first got our 5er (our second camper, previous was a bumper pull), we took it on a maiden voyage to a campground not too far from our house. Getting into the pull through spot was not an issue, but getting out sure was, because of some ill placed boulders and a tree. The older folks at the site next to us just sat there staring at us struggling (I literally used our dogs leashes to pull a tree branch down to try to avoid as much damage on the camper as possible). Then when I looked over at him he offered to help, but also laughed and said that was why he kept his old (which was a 1960s tiny bumper pull) trailer. I declined his assistance because I thought he was being a jerk.

So, maybe it was your approach. We are younger (mid 30s), and I've found many older RVers have a holier than thou attitude when talking to us, like we somehow are stupid because we are young.

And, as mentioned, that trip was a learning experience, as it was intended to be. We learned what kind of sites would work, and how to scope them out ahead of time to know what we could handle with our size trailer. We also purchased tree trimmers and put a taller step ladder in the trailer.

I can't see why the old guy offended you. He sat and watched at first as many of us of all ages would do because nowadays folks are afraid to intrude. Many people don't want to admit they need help. Then he offered his help and you refused. He laughed and said that's why he keeps his old RV. That had absolutely nothing against you. He was trying to help and then tried in include some humor.

It was the way/tone he offered the help. Just like this OP may have offered the help in a condescending way. Just saying, I know how it feels to be on that end of things, and it's not fun, and having someone approach you sounding "holier than thou" doesn't help matters.

[Yosemite_Sam1]

dodge guy wrote:

azrving wrote:
Yosemite Sam
Yep it's been on an old thread. How about a topic on banging on people door to self enforce park rules. 🙂

I think a topic on complaining about people that don’t know how to knock on doors would be better suited to some of us!

It could be retitled, how to have your face blasted with a shotgun for being mistaken as a bear, lol.

[dodge_guy]

azrving wrote:
Yosemite Sam
Yep it's been on an old thread. How about a topic on banging on people door to self enforce park rules. 🙂

I think a topic on complaining about people that don’t know how to knock on doors would be better suited to some of us!

[Yosemite_Sam1]

azrving wrote:
Yosemite Sam
Yep it's been on an old thread. How about a topic on banging on people door to self enforce park rules. 🙂

LOL! I would have suggested he bring a printer for a re-issue of camp rules adding his own.