Oct-28-2013 06:07 AM
Oct-31-2013 02:47 AM
wilber1 wrote:skrams wrote:
So since the only fatality was not wearing a seatbelt, and therefore breaking the law, isn't the charge of first degree vehicular homicide just a little much? The dead guy chose to take the risk of not wearing a belt.
Interesting point. Wonder if it will come up and what the courts will make of it.
Oct-30-2013 08:12 PM
Oct-30-2013 07:44 PM
skrams wrote:
So since the only fatality was not wearing a seatbelt, and therefore breaking the law, isn't the charge of first degree vehicular homicide just a little much? The dead guy chose to take the risk of not wearing a belt.
Oct-30-2013 07:24 PM
JJBIRISH wrote:
In GA homicide by vehicle is a felony, and a first degree felony only requires the driver shows negligent behavior that caused an accident with a death(I don’t believe that means he had to cause the death, only the accident that caused the death) …
also one of several other circumstances are included, like school bus overtaking, failed to stop, were driving in a reckless manor, or under the influence, attempted to escape, or have been habitual offenders…
I would think by GA law he is properly charged… of course he’s not been proven guilty of anything yet and our knowledge of the true facts are limited…
Still in my book leaving the scene automatically puts a cloud over his head… I can’t imagine someone being able to do that…
Oct-30-2013 06:39 PM
Oct-30-2013 06:15 PM
Oct-30-2013 05:02 PM
Oct-30-2013 04:21 PM
peaches&cream wrote:skrams wrote:
So since the only fatality was not wearing a seatbelt, and therefore breaking the law, isn't the charge of first degree vehicular homicide just a little much? The dead guy chose to take the risk of not wearing a belt.
Sure, probably the dead guy's fault. If he had not been there, and if he had his seat belt fastened, he would still be around. Nothing to do with the guy that hit hem. he was just a victim of circumstance. :S
Oct-30-2013 03:27 PM
skrams wrote:
So since the only fatality was not wearing a seatbelt, and therefore breaking the law, isn't the charge of first degree vehicular homicide just a little much? The dead guy chose to take the risk of not wearing a belt.
Oct-30-2013 03:07 PM
Oct-30-2013 08:16 AM
pronstar wrote:
I've seen video of skydivers who survived freefalling from 20,000 feet.
They hit the ground at terminal velocity after their parachutes failed.
So the smart thing for me to do is simply skydive without a parachute.
Point being:
Exceptions don't make the rule.
Buckle-up.
Oct-30-2013 08:10 AM
Oct-30-2013 04:57 AM
Oct-30-2013 12:26 AM
JJBIRISH wrote:Correct, there are no absolutes with high speed car crashes. My Niece was ejected from the passengers seat in a mid 90's GM vehicle while belted. The car rolled many times and the automatic shoulder restraint closer probably played a part in that. She died at the scene.
While there are no valid arguments to not wearing seat belts it is due to probabilities and not absolutes…
Some seem to believe everything has to be absolute, is black or white, my way or no way…
People have survived while not buckled in and no one can say with certainty they would have been killed or survived if buckled… few survive ejections but there are cases where some that have, but wouldn’t have survived the remainder of the crash had they not… much like the nearly uninjured motorcyclist thrown clear of certain doom (myself)…
I myself witnessed at a very early time in my driving career (within the first week) two die in a car fire on the PA turnpike (at the RT19 crossover) that both survived the crash of going backwards into the bridge abutment but at least one panicked and forgot to release their lap belts and fought a losing battle to get out of the car… I don’t know that either would have ultimately survived in the end but it is a traumatic thing to see and not be able to do anything about…
There are no studies or surveys that would claim the probabilities of death or injury are less on the side of not wearing seatbelts in automobiles or helmet while on motorcyclist… while low the possibility exist but still is not a justification to ignore the probabilities…
A little off topic though… I am glad the driver was caught, there is no justification for leaving the scene of an accident and no matter what others did or didn’t do, this individual caused all of this to happen, knew it and still fled the scene… he turned this from an automobile accident into a criminal offense and he is the one that deserves what he gets…
Oct-29-2013 11:31 PM