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rk911 wrote:
between 2000-2012 ESL has averaged 21 murders per year. and according to the Illinois Criminal Justice Authority ESL had an average of 40-homicides per year between 1980-87. but between 1988-1993 the city averaged 68 per year. ICJA attributes that increase to the introduction of crack cocaine. what you may have been referring to was the homicide rate...the number of murders per capita in the city. the rate peaked in 1989 at somewhere between 300-350 homicides per capita.
there's no doubt that ESL is a dangerous place and apart from the riverboat casino there's not much in the area for tourists...and I'd be wary of the casino. just wanted to set the record straight.
โFeb-17-2015 02:54 PM
cjmgranny wrote:
Hi all,
I am thrilled to get this much feedback to my question. We have a small T@B trailer and this will be our first cross country trip. I appreciate all of your help! Keep thoses suggestions coming!
Thanks,
"Granny"
PS... I did not know bypasses had 3 numbers.
โFeb-17-2015 01:43 PM
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Wadcutter wrote:cjmgranny wrote:
Hi all,
This information is terrific!
I was thinking we should avoid St Louis MO but had no idea that camping in E. St Louis IL would not be a good idea.
You really do NOT want to go into E St Louis. It's population is about 25,000. 30 years ago they were having over 400 murders a year. That's just in E St Louis and does not include the murders in St Louis. To put that in perspective if the same murder rate was to occur in New York City, pop of about 9 mil, NYC would have about 144,000 murders a year. To further explain everyone talks of the number of murders in Mexico. They have about 25,000-30,000 a year in the entire country. If you lived in E St Louis and figured in murders, shootings, stabbings, and serious batteries then the odds of you being a victim of one of them was once every 3 years. It's gotten a bit better now but it's still a very high violent crime area.
If you intend to visit the sites in St Louis and wish to stay on the east side of the river closest to St Louis then the only place in E St Louis would be the Casino Queen which is right across the river from the Arch. Drive directly to the Casino Queen and directly from. Do not venture any other places in E St Louis.
You don't say how you're coming in from the east and where you intend to go after getting thru St Louis. That will make a difference how to get around the St Louis metro area with fewest problems. If you're coming into the area on I-55 or I-70 and you intend to go on west on I-70 then take I-270 around the north side. If you intend to go west on I-44 then take I-55/I-70 to I-255 South at Exit 11. Take I-255 around the south side to I-270 north a couple of miles to I-44 west. If you intend to that I-55 south then about 3 miles after you cross the river on I-255 you can take I-55 south.
โFeb-17-2015 12:57 PM
cjmgranny wrote:
Hi all,
This information is terrific!
I was thinking we should avoid St Louis MO but had no idea that camping in E. St Louis IL would not be a good idea.
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rhagfo wrote:Rus, those pic's look a lot like the same as US-95/US-12 in Idaho that we drove last summer. We really enjoyed it.FrankShore wrote:
That would depend on the type of rig you're pulling or driving. A travel trailer isn't bad, but if you've got a huge diesel pusher, I'd think twice about it.
What difference does it make? My rig is 8'+ wide, 13.5' tall and 50'+ long. If you are on the interstate the lanes are 10' to 12' wide, that would be a cake walk compared to this!
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