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Vinegar and baking soda in holding tanks?

BillyandKris
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Forgive me: Age-old subject beat to pieces! We have used strong vinegar to clean our holding tanks before and get gauges working. Have heard others mention using vinegar AND baking soda. We know how much vinegar to use, but how much baking soda? Have tried filtering through some forum posts and there is so much chat and going off subject that I have been unable to determine baking soda amount. Have used vinegar/baking soda down drains to clean out and it does that โ€œboilingโ€ thing. We are trying to clean off HARD WATER DEPOSIT AND SOAP SCUM BUILD-UP only. Not worried about other โ€œstuffโ€ as that is not the problem for us. Think we run into these issues from sitting still for long periods with hard water source and no sloshing/cleaning effect. Thanks for advice.
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Classy07
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I've heard one cup of each, going to try for first time today, but using 2 cups of vinegar to 1 cup of baking soda

Canadian_Rainbi
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Ours work reasonably well when we keep moving about. However, when parked here in Zihuatanejo for three months not so much. The potable water gauges work fine, the grey and black not so much. IF after dumping I refill them with water and dump again, as I did yesterday, they will read 2/3 full until about (guessing) 1/2 full when they read full.

DrewE
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drsteve wrote:
Even if you get the gauge sensors clean--a dicey proposition at best--they only remain clean until the next time the tank is used. A waste (heh) of time, IMHO.


I don't know; mine seem to work reasonably reliably, and about all I do is spritz the tank with a wand once or twice a year. Sometimes it does take a minute or two after dumping for them to read empty.

I've noticed that there seem to be two schools of thought with regards to the tank sensors. Those who have trouble with them working reliably invariably say they're useless and unnecessary and even when working are of no real help, while those like me who have ones that seem to work halfway well usually say (like I do) that they can be handy. I put them in the nice to have but not essential category.

drsteve
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Even if you get the gauge sensors clean--a dicey proposition at best--they only remain clean until the next time the tank is used. A waste (heh) of time, IMHO.
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BigRabbitMan
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beemerphile1 wrote:
I have never had any need to "clean" the waste tanks.

I have never "cleaned" or flushed my waste tanks in 15 years either and they still work as designed.
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beemerphile1
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I have never had any need to "clean" the waste tanks.
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westend
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Plain baking soda is useful as a cleaner mainly in being a mild abrasive that is soft enough to not harm many surfaces. Vinegar is useful do to its acidity mainly. Neither one is especially effective against soils and general dirt (if you aren't actively scrubbing). Laundry detergent or dishwasher detergent and a lot of water would be more effective than either, in my estimation. Scrubbing with a brush would also work very nicely, but is very rarely practical and probably never pleasant for a holding tank.
My take on baking soda as a cleaner was the same as your's until I tried it on my old greasy, baked-on oven debris. As long as it is kept wetted, it's a real effective cleaner for rough cleaning jobs. I sprinkled some on my dirty oven and sprayed it with water over the course of a week or so. At the end of that, it lifted all the old greasy soil off the porcelain oven surface and left everything sparkling.

If a guy could get the concentration high enough, it would probably be effective on tank surfaces, too. I'd be tempted to use some CLR or other acid based cleaner if I thought my holding tanks needed to be "hospital clean".
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BigRabbitMan
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B.O. Plenty wrote:
Why is it so important to have those unreliable gauges working? I haven't looked at mine in years...The toilet will burp when you flush it if the tank is full. The vent pipe won't let any air out so the burp coming from the toilet lets you know it's full. If you just dump every 4 days or so you will be fine. Why worry about the stupid gauges so much. They never work...

B.O.

I agree. My guages quit about 15 years ago and I haven't missed them. I dump prior to leaving a park or when I look down the toilet and see it is getting full.
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slickest1
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DrewE wrote:
Baking soda and vinegar react to produce carbon dioxide and sodium acetate in solution. The carbon dioxide has no real cleaning benefit (though dissolved in water it is acidic, which may help very slightly with some mineral deposits), and sodium acetate is also so far as I know not a particularly effective cleaner, though it does have some other industrial and commercial uses.

Plain baking soda is useful as a cleaner mainly in being a mild abrasive that is soft enough to not harm many surfaces. Vinegar is useful do to its acidity mainly. Neither one is especially effective against soils and general dirt (if you aren't actively scrubbing). Laundry detergent or dishwasher detergent and a lot of water would be more effective than either, in my estimation. Scrubbing with a brush would also work very nicely, but is very rarely practical and probably never pleasant for a holding tank.


Great, make Carbon dioxide and the Guberment will want to tax us on it!!
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lillyputz
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My owners manual say's to use salt and water.
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coolmom42
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Sport45 wrote:
And the sodium acetate doesn't even stay together. It dissociates and all you wind up with is sodium ions and acetate ions (along with some of the original ingredients and whatever was in the tank to begin with).


You are correct, I misread your original post.
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B_O__Plenty
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Why is it so important to have those unreliable gauges working? I haven't looked at mine in years...The toilet will burp when you flush it if the tank is full. The vent pipe won't let any air out so the burp coming from the toilet lets you know it's full. If you just dump every 4 days or so you will be fine. Why worry about the stupid gauges so much. They never work...

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Sport45
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Yeah, a baking soda & vinegar volcano erupting out of your toilet probably wouldn't be as cute. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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