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KD4UPL wrote:
So what news story is being referenced?
I've been in the solar business for many years. I've seen prices free fall for solar panels. Just 12 years ago my wholesale price on a panel was somewhere between $6 and $5 per watt. Now, if I buy in quantity from the right vendor I can get panels for under $.50 per watt. So, let's say the $.50 per watt goes up 25%, that makes it about $.63 per watt. That's still about an 1/8 of what I used to pay. I don't think it's that big a deal. I guess it's all in perspective.
โSep-15-2018 07:27 AM
ppine wrote:But he's real good at making us think he does.
Trump actually knows very little about the geopolitical landscape and trade negotiations.
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Yang added that the technique of spraying on a layer of perovskite could be easily and inexpensively incorporated into existing solar-cell manufacturing processes.
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โSep-14-2018 09:16 PM
timmac wrote:free radical wrote:
So why cant US goverment subsidise solar panel manufacturers also..?
Maybe they dont care about clean energy?:W
https://youtu.be/kVsosNzEpLQ
Very good video and it is Fact, but those problems were before Trump, he wants to rebuild America from the Mid-West to the East and West and wants us out of these wars and keep the money here.
However the past politians that want the old non working ways to continue needs to get out of his way so we can fix America..
โSep-14-2018 08:20 PM
timmac wrote:RTCastillo wrote:ppine wrote:
We can't out compete every other country on every product. We have a world economy and should export what we are good at. Let the market decide. We have never been competitive in solar panel manufacturing compared to the Chinese.
Once you start tariff wars, it just guarantees that costs to consumers are going up.
Yup, you are exactly right. Itโs called the โunique competitive advantageโ of nations.
Germany is the best model. They cannot compete anymore in cheap widgets, so they focus on high quality precision items. They design their educational system in parallel tracks of college bound engineers and skills based trades.
We can do the same in high technology and alternative fuel except the political leadership wants to pander to the vote rich extractive and carbon-based sunsetting industries.
That to is only temporary, remember back in the 50's and 60's Japan made cheap stuff and no one worried than, than by the 90's they dominated the high end stuff as well, focusing on a few special high quality products will soon be made for 1/3 else where in 10 years..
I am with Trump, Fair Trade or No Trade...
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โSep-14-2018 08:19 PM
free radical wrote:
So why cant US goverment subsidise solar panel manufacturers also..?
Maybe they dont care about clean energy?:W
https://youtu.be/kVsosNzEpLQ
โSep-14-2018 08:19 PM
Ed_Gee wrote:
There are US manufacturers of high quality solar panels, Zamp Solar, for one.
โSep-14-2018 08:09 PM
RTCastillo wrote:ppine wrote:
We can't out compete every other country on every product. We have a world economy and should export what we are good at. Let the market decide. We have never been competitive in solar panel manufacturing compared to the Chinese.
Once you start tariff wars, it just guarantees that costs to consumers are going up.
Yup, you are exactly right. Itโs called the โunique competitive advantageโ of nations.
Germany is the best model. They cannot compete anymore in cheap widgets, so they focus on high quality precision items. They design their educational system in parallel tracks of college bound engineers and skills based trades.
We can do the same in high technology and alternative fuel except the political leadership wants to pander to the vote rich extractive and carbon-based sunsetting industries.
โSep-14-2018 08:07 PM
Almot wrote:BFL13 wrote:
... some hippy who can't grow carrots at the "global price" for carrots, and make money. He can go find something else to do that does make money.
This is an idealized picture. Other than cutting trees in BC or digging oil in Alberta and selling all this to China, there isn't much one can do in Canadian resource economy. Our farmers and manufacturers can't grow or manufacture anything to make money at "global" (i.e., 3rd world) prices. Unless he is willing to work for LESS than Chinese, - because if he works for the same $2/hr, he won't benefit from exporting to the rest of the world like China does.
Back to the subject - kind of. Massive and well organized subsidies by Chinese govt was one of the factors in successful elimination of the competition in solar manufacturing. Political bureau so decided, orders were given, funds allocated. Planned and executed act.