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โAug-31-2011 12:06 PM
-=dwh=- wrote:byates wrote:
At your suggestion, I did some reading in the Honeywell 2000 thread. I understand where you are coming from on the Honeywell 2000i.
After reading dwh's thread comments, it would appear that the original problematic Honeywell 2000i generators were supplied by the Chinese company Yongkang Xingguang, and the later and more dependable Honeywell 2000i units were supplied by Suzhou Tiger Power Machine Co. after Generac took over.
No, there were two versions of the YX product sold by Northshore under the HW name. The second version had the fuel primer and the 12v stuff removed. It also had better internal grounding, and added an overflow tube from the top of the gas tank filler neck down and out the bottom of the unit. But it was basically the same YX product.
Now that Generac has taken over Northshore, they are marketing the Suzhou Tiger product under both Generac, and Honeywell, names.
Generac has been manufacturing and marketing power generating equipment for half a century. Based on this analysis, purchasing a Generac 2000i from Costco would pose little risk if its performance didnโt measure up.
Using the Generac or Honeywell names is a marketing trick to capitalize on the reputation of a well-known brand.
I would not attach any importance to the companies' reputation when it comes to guessing at the quality of a Chinese product.
The Generac, and now also the Honeywell, are Suzhou Tiger generators.
At best, the Generac name means you might get decent service from Generac, but IMHO it means nothing as per the quality of the product.
To be fair, YX did improve the product, but it was too little, too late. They do make a whole bunch of different inverter generators so I doubt they'll go out of business any time soon.
I figure the Northshore execs probably got their golden parachutes out of the deal, which was doubtless more important to them than their customers. Welcome to the US/China trade economy.
โAug-31-2011 09:49 AM
byates wrote:
Is your Champion 42431 also a rebranded product? I believe that several different Chinese manufacturing companies ship generators and generator parts under the Champion brand.
โAug-31-2011 09:31 AM
byates wrote:
At your suggestion, I did some reading in the Honeywell 2000 thread. I understand where you are coming from on the Honeywell 2000i.
After reading dwh's thread comments, it would appear that the original problematic Honeywell 2000i generators were supplied by the Chinese company Yongkang Xingguang, and the later and more dependable Honeywell 2000i units were supplied by Suzhou Tiger Power Machine Co. after Generac took over.
Generac has been manufacturing and marketing power generating equipment for half a century. Based on this analysis, purchasing a Generac 2000i from Costco would pose little risk if its performance didnโt measure up.
โAug-31-2011 09:14 AM
PrivatePilot wrote:
Theres a reason Honeywell got out of the generator business.
โAug-31-2011 07:37 AM
โAug-30-2011 05:56 PM
PrivatePilot wrote:
You might want to read the Honeywell 2000 thread here at rv.net before considering it.
Short form: I owned one. It sucked. 1 dead, 3 week turnaround on warraty replacenent. It acted up as well. Lots of others in same boat. Loud, lots of weird noises, clattering and clanking.
Theres a reason Honeywell got out of the generator business.
โAug-30-2011 02:27 PM
โAug-30-2011 01:52 PM
-=dwh=- wrote:byates wrote:hedge wrote:
Help...
I just purchased one of these tonite. I put gas and oil (400ml) in it and it fired up after a couple of pulls but then went straight into overload mode (didn't have anything plugged in). I shut if off right away. Now when I attempt to start it the cord has a lot more resistance than it did before and it doesn't start.
I got it at costco so it's likely going back unless someone knows a quick solution.
PS: is 400ml the correct amount of oil? it says 0.4L throughout the manual but when I put 400ml in it seemed like it wanted to come out the fill port. I measured exactly 400ml and turned it over to make sure there was no oil in it to begin with.
Given all the reported problems with the 2000i, I would return it to Costco. While I don't have any firsthand experience with the Generac line of generators, Costco online has the Generac 2000/2200 inverter for $529.00, shipping included. The Generac has a 126cc engine vs the 80cc on the Champion and should be more apt to deliver on its advertised performance.
Just FYI:
When my 3rd Honeywell failed, Generac had just taken over Northshore Power (and the Honeywell branding contract). They were going to send me a Generac as a replacment, so I looked into it. The Generac is made by (IIRC) Suzhou Tiger Power Machine Co. in China. I believe the generator currently being sold under the Honeywell name is the same generator.
It might be a great generator. I wouldn't know. It turned out that it's a 49 state gen and they couldn't send me a replacement because I'm in California. So they sent me a refund instead.
(Which I used to purchase an 80cc 1200wC/1500wS Champion 42431. Aside from being noisy and needing an ounce of oil added with every tankful of fuel, it's been humming along without an issue for over 300 hours now.)
โAug-30-2011 01:02 PM
byates wrote:hedge wrote:
Help...
I just purchased one of these tonite. I put gas and oil (400ml) in it and it fired up after a couple of pulls but then went straight into overload mode (didn't have anything plugged in). I shut if off right away. Now when I attempt to start it the cord has a lot more resistance than it did before and it doesn't start.
I got it at costco so it's likely going back unless someone knows a quick solution.
PS: is 400ml the correct amount of oil? it says 0.4L throughout the manual but when I put 400ml in it seemed like it wanted to come out the fill port. I measured exactly 400ml and turned it over to make sure there was no oil in it to begin with.
Given all the reported problems with the 2000i, I would return it to Costco. While I don't have any firsthand experience with the Generac line of generators, Costco online has the Generac 2000/2200 inverter for $529.00, shipping included. The Generac has a 126cc engine vs the 80cc on the Champion and should be more apt to deliver on its advertised performance.
โAug-30-2011 11:31 AM
hedge wrote:
Help...
I just purchased one of these tonite. I put gas and oil (400ml) in it and it fired up after a couple of pulls but then went straight into overload mode (didn't have anything plugged in). I shut if off right away. Now when I attempt to start it the cord has a lot more resistance than it did before and it doesn't start.
I got it at costco so it's likely going back unless someone knows a quick solution.
PS: is 400ml the correct amount of oil? it says 0.4L throughout the manual but when I put 400ml in it seemed like it wanted to come out the fill port. I measured exactly 400ml and turned it over to make sure there was no oil in it to begin with.
โAug-30-2011 10:24 AM
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