โMay-27-2010 02:06 AM
โJul-01-2011 11:52 PM
โJul-01-2011 09:53 PM
#40Fan wrote:
Found one local for $489. Is that a good price? Anyone seen them on sale for less?
โJul-01-2011 06:40 PM
โJul-01-2011 11:27 AM
DrBaker wrote:
DW likes to sleep in a fridge and our temps are 100+ daily. I have been thinking of adding a small roof AC in the bedroom. Probably 9200btu or less. It would be great if I could find one that ran reliably off 1 Champ 2000. In the cooler months I could get by with just one small gen since the big AC wouldn't be needed.
Any suggestions on a small AC?
โJun-30-2011 09:06 PM
MrRchitty wrote:MrRchitty wrote:DrBaker wrote:professor95 wrote:DrBaker wrote:
If you don't stack them, what way would you position them side by side? I want to leave them in the truck bed and have limited space. My concern is exhaust heat from one blowing in to the other.
I thought about having them face each other and then decided that it would not work since the exhaust from one would be right on the tailgate. IIRC, you must leave a certain amount of space around the gen for it to breathe.
My goal is to run the gens without unhitching the truck. Space constraints leave the gens behind the hitch.
It is a problem no matter how you look at it. Stacked is a pain since you have to lift one off to add fuel. I prefer side-by-side. But, as you noted, having both in a line facing out puts the exhaust of one up close to the cool air intake of the other. One in front of the other spaced as far apart as the cable allows seems to work best for me. The outlet part of the parallel cables does NOT have to reside on top of one of the gensets which gives you additional space. There is no magic inside, only a set of outlets and crimp connections. We set such on the ground all the time with a simple plastic cover held down with rocks.
Maybe we can convince CPE to design both a left hand and a right hand genset? That would solve the problem nicely ๐
If the exhaust is pointed toward the tailgate of the truck, how many inches do you recommend I give it to breathe? Same question on the other gen, but for the fresh air intake? I don't want to limit their breathing room too much.
I am going to say that I would do my best not to back the Little Champ close to any kind of obstruction on the exhaust side. Reason is that there is a cold air intake on the exhaust side to cool the alternator part of the generator. I would fear introducing warmed or significantly warmed air from the exit side of the generator may decrease the cooling affect on the alternator. Just my opinion.
DrBaker, Let me apologize.
I took the back of the cover off of my 2000i (time to clean the spark arrestor) and took a good look inside. I noticed that this cold air intake was, for the most part, solid. Only towards the very center, if I turned the engine over slowly, did I see two very small openings in the back of this area. The exit of this area (now I know to be the back side of a centrifugal fan)I can place my fingers inside and feel the fins. These fins are open facing the alternator and appear to pull air through the motor area and then the alternator. Perhaps some pictures tomorrow, unless your good.
Otherwise, how many inches from a wall or obstruction you can place the back of the generator, I don't know. As long as the air is free to escape.
โJun-30-2011 07:37 PM
MrRchitty wrote:DrBaker wrote:professor95 wrote:DrBaker wrote:
If you don't stack them, what way would you position them side by side? I want to leave them in the truck bed and have limited space. My concern is exhaust heat from one blowing in to the other.
I thought about having them face each other and then decided that it would not work since the exhaust from one would be right on the tailgate. IIRC, you must leave a certain amount of space around the gen for it to breathe.
My goal is to run the gens without unhitching the truck. Space constraints leave the gens behind the hitch.
It is a problem no matter how you look at it. Stacked is a pain since you have to lift one off to add fuel. I prefer side-by-side. But, as you noted, having both in a line facing out puts the exhaust of one up close to the cool air intake of the other. One in front of the other spaced as far apart as the cable allows seems to work best for me. The outlet part of the parallel cables does NOT have to reside on top of one of the gensets which gives you additional space. There is no magic inside, only a set of outlets and crimp connections. We set such on the ground all the time with a simple plastic cover held down with rocks.
Maybe we can convince CPE to design both a left hand and a right hand genset? That would solve the problem nicely ๐
If the exhaust is pointed toward the tailgate of the truck, how many inches do you recommend I give it to breathe? Same question on the other gen, but for the fresh air intake? I don't want to limit their breathing room too much.
I am going to say that I would do my best not to back the Little Champ close to any kind of obstruction on the exhaust side. Reason is that there is a cold air intake on the exhaust side to cool the alternator part of the generator. I would fear introducing warmed or significantly warmed air from the exit side of the generator may decrease the cooling affect on the alternator. Just my opinion.
โJun-30-2011 10:06 AM
MrRchitty wrote:BENT ARROW wrote:
For the Honda you can buy a extra after market fuel tank or just a tank cap with hose on Ebay and use your own tank for extra run time. With 158 pages here has anyone come up with the same setup for the Champion. Might save trouble and time refilling tanks if 2 are stacked. I though about drilling the cap and adding a gas line but theres not enough space unless I tear the cap apart. Guess I will start checking bottle caps for size and thread just to give it a try.
Professor did a whole write up on this. If I'm not mistaken, it appears twice. With photos. The Little Champ, however is gravity feed and a supply tank would have to be at the same level as the tank in the Little Champ or slightly higher, allowing for proper siphoning.
โJun-30-2011 08:28 AM
โJun-28-2011 07:31 PM
DrBaker wrote:professor95 wrote:DrBaker wrote:
If you don't stack them, what way would you position them side by side? I want to leave them in the truck bed and have limited space. My concern is exhaust heat from one blowing in to the other.
I thought about having them face each other and then decided that it would not work since the exhaust from one would be right on the tailgate. IIRC, you must leave a certain amount of space around the gen for it to breathe.
My goal is to run the gens without unhitching the truck. Space constraints leave the gens behind the hitch.
It is a problem no matter how you look at it. Stacked is a pain since you have to lift one off to add fuel. I prefer side-by-side. But, as you noted, having both in a line facing out puts the exhaust of one up close to the cool air intake of the other. One in front of the other spaced as far apart as the cable allows seems to work best for me. The outlet part of the parallel cables does NOT have to reside on top of one of the gensets which gives you additional space. There is no magic inside, only a set of outlets and crimp connections. We set such on the ground all the time with a simple plastic cover held down with rocks.
Maybe we can convince CPE to design both a left hand and a right hand genset? That would solve the problem nicely ๐
If the exhaust is pointed toward the tailgate of the truck, how many inches do you recommend I give it to breathe? Same question on the other gen, but for the fresh air intake? I don't want to limit their breathing room too much.
โJun-28-2011 07:02 PM
professor95 wrote:DrBaker wrote:
If you don't stack them, what way would you position them side by side? I want to leave them in the truck bed and have limited space. My concern is exhaust heat from one blowing in to the other.
I thought about having them face each other and then decided that it would not work since the exhaust from one would be right on the tailgate. IIRC, you must leave a certain amount of space around the gen for it to breathe.
My goal is to run the gens without unhitching the truck. Space constraints leave the gens behind the hitch.
It is a problem no matter how you look at it. Stacked is a pain since you have to lift one off to add fuel. I prefer side-by-side. But, as you noted, having both in a line facing out puts the exhaust of one up close to the cool air intake of the other. One in front of the other spaced as far apart as the cable allows seems to work best for me. The outlet part of the parallel cables does NOT have to reside on top of one of the gensets which gives you additional space. There is no magic inside, only a set of outlets and crimp connections. We set such on the ground all the time with a simple plastic cover held down with rocks.
Maybe we can convince CPE to design both a left hand and a right hand genset? That would solve the problem nicely ๐
โJun-28-2011 03:16 PM
โJun-28-2011 12:26 PM
Wayne Dohnal wrote:
Jumper - I needed to run the eu2000i anyway so I gathered some data that might partially answer your question. A few introductory comments: The eu2000i outputs 128 volts with no load or light loads. At its rated 1,600 VA, the voltage is down to 124. With greater loads it decays faster. IMO when it's down to 120, the genny is working pretty hard. Somewhere around 115, the generator transitions to the backside of its power curve, where adding more load increases the output in terms of amps, but the voltage goes down to the point where there is no power increase or the power output might even be lower. IMO, when the output voltage gets down to 115, you're maxed out in practical terms. Under 115, IMO, you're abusing the poor thing. When I talk about light bulbs, that's the labeled wattage, not the actual wattage. The atmospheric conditions were 80* and 3,500 feet. Here are the numbers. (Truncated, see page 157)
โJun-28-2011 11:03 AM
BENT ARROW wrote:
For the Honda you can buy a extra after market fuel tank or just a tank cap with hose on Ebay and use your own tank for extra run time. With 158 pages here has anyone come up with the same setup for the Champion. Might save trouble and time refilling tanks if 2 are stacked. I though about drilling the cap and adding a gas line but theres not enough space unless I tear the cap apart. Guess I will start checking bottle caps for size and thread just to give it a try.
โJun-28-2011 10:36 AM
โJun-28-2011 10:02 AM