โOct-07-2013 09:47 AM
โOct-20-2013 06:31 PM
โOct-14-2013 07:12 PM
jim summers wrote:
From the Chevy charts it appears that the 1500 will trailer more and pull more than the 2500. Why is that? The comparisons (off the Chevy) website are as follows:
Silverado 2500 GVWR=9500 payload=3347 Max trailering(3.73=) 9700 GCWR(3.73)= 16000
Silverado 1500 GVWR=7200 payload = 1947 (2500 wins here)Max trailering = 11300 GCWR = 16700
I don't understand that comment about a "1500 maxing out payload first". My 6000+lb. TT has a tongue weight of 650 lbs. That leaves 1350lbs still avail payload in the Silverado 1500. If 2 pax = 400 lbs. that leaves 900 lbs in the bed. I figure my generator, compressor, truck junk, golf clubs, TT pads,etc. will weigh 300lbs. So- I can't understand about a "1500 always maxing out payload first". Not arguing, just confused.
If a new 1500 w/ max trailering pkg will trailer 11300 & its GCWR is 16700; it "seems" that my 6000 TT & a 7200lb truck (that's maxed out weight-GVWR), leave me safely at about 75% of my "factory max capability". What am I missing ? thnx again-everyone!
โOct-14-2013 02:17 PM
โOct-12-2013 09:42 PM
CKNSLS wrote:Need-A-Vacation wrote:CKNSLS wrote:owenssailor wrote:
The payload capability in "1/2 ton" pickups is a very real issue. It is not hard to hit the rated limits for the truck. The WD hitch and tongue weight can add up very quickly.
That limit will be reached far sooner than the towing rating.
Everything you said is correct but the OP isn't going to have those problems based on the trailer he is considering.
As a general rule you will never be able to tow the maximum ratings in a half-ton when you take payload in to consideration.
While it sounds like the OP should be fine, until he tells us everything he plans on doing to the truck and what he will load in the bed, it is hard to say for sure.
Will he add a spray in bed liner, cab high (or taller) bed cap, weeks worth of firewood, etc??? OP also stated truck will be a crew cab, but never has posted how many family members, or even the total "rough" weight of all passengers.
Does it sound like a good match, yes, but without knowing all what the OP will have in the truck it is still a "Conditional Yes" IMHO.
And I can't believe GM isn't offering a tow mirror option on the '14's!!! Wonder why!!!??? Though I haven't tried to build one myself.
Acut2660,
Do you currently have a truck/suv? If so, I know this is a crazy thought, BUT, go weigh the vehicle empty: no passenger, coolers, firewood, etc, that you think you would normally load in the new truck/ Now go home, load all passengers (even if all won't be going camping on all trips), coolers, chairs, firewood, etc up and go reweigh the vehicle. This will give you a good idea what your payload will be in the new truck. Now add about 100lbs for the hitch, then see what you have leeft over to compare to the Sierra's payload. Then decide if have enough for the trailer tongue weight and anything else you would like to do to the truck: bed cap, spray in liner, etc.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
Chris
Chris,
I just did what others on here say is impossible. I just completed an 8 month-8,000 mile towing trip (32 states) with my half-ton and 29 foot trailer. A a matter of fact I put on another 10,000 miles on the truck over and above the towing miles using the truck for touring and and seeing the sights. So yes, I know a thing or two about towing with a half-ton. And I must add I had ZERO problems on the trip. Not even a flat tire running Carlisle RH tires.
Trying to get others a "buy in" to tow with a half-ton on this forum is a complete waste of time-I guess the OP doesn't know this. Your as likely to tell him to tow with a half-ton as you are to tell him to run ST tires.
โOct-12-2013 08:43 AM
Need-A-Vacation wrote:CKNSLS wrote:owenssailor wrote:
The payload capability in "1/2 ton" pickups is a very real issue. It is not hard to hit the rated limits for the truck. The WD hitch and tongue weight can add up very quickly.
That limit will be reached far sooner than the towing rating.
Everything you said is correct but the OP isn't going to have those problems based on the trailer he is considering.
As a general rule you will never be able to tow the maximum ratings in a half-ton when you take payload in to consideration.
While it sounds like the OP should be fine, until he tells us everything he plans on doing to the truck and what he will load in the bed, it is hard to say for sure.
Will he add a spray in bed liner, cab high (or taller) bed cap, weeks worth of firewood, etc??? OP also stated truck will be a crew cab, but never has posted how many family members, or even the total "rough" weight of all passengers.
Does it sound like a good match, yes, but without knowing all what the OP will have in the truck it is still a "Conditional Yes" IMHO.
And I can't believe GM isn't offering a tow mirror option on the '14's!!! Wonder why!!!??? Though I haven't tried to build one myself.
Acut2660,
Do you currently have a truck/suv? If so, I know this is a crazy thought, BUT, go weigh the vehicle empty: no passenger, coolers, firewood, etc, that you think you would normally load in the new truck/ Now go home, load all passengers (even if all won't be going camping on all trips), coolers, chairs, firewood, etc up and go reweigh the vehicle. This will give you a good idea what your payload will be in the new truck. Now add about 100lbs for the hitch, then see what you have leeft over to compare to the Sierra's payload. Then decide if have enough for the trailer tongue weight and anything else you would like to do to the truck: bed cap, spray in liner, etc.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
Chris
โOct-12-2013 07:11 AM
โOct-12-2013 06:02 AM
owenssailor wrote:
The payload capability in "1/2 ton" pickups is a very real issue. It is not hard to hit the rated limits for the truck. The WD hitch and tongue weight can add up very quickly.
That limit will be reached far sooner than the towing rating.
โOct-12-2013 05:59 AM
mrkoje wrote:aedubber wrote:
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The Dodge Ram payload is TERRIBLE so its like your almost forced to get a 2500 on the Ram model.
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Really? I think 1400-1600lbs for a midlevel trim Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 is actually pretty decent. Switch to the Laramie Limited and the payload is horrible at 1000lbs. However for a base or midlevel truck I think what they offer is good. Keep in mind that while the payload IS lower Ram has the multi-coil rear end setup which I've noticed gives a much nicer ride especially on gravel roads.
Brings me to the question on how much payload do you really expect or need out of a 1/2 ton truck? Not that far back a 1/2 ton rated truck was exactly that - capable of hauling one-half-of-a-ton in the bed. N
Either way, I think if you need 2000lbs of payload on your truck than you would better off with a heavier 3/4 or 1ton.
โOct-12-2013 05:40 AM
CKNSLS wrote:owenssailor wrote:
The payload capability in "1/2 ton" pickups is a very real issue. It is not hard to hit the rated limits for the truck. The WD hitch and tongue weight can add up very quickly.
That limit will be reached far sooner than the towing rating.
Everything you said is correct but the OP isn't going to have those problems based on the trailer he is considering.
As a general rule you will never be able to tow the maximum ratings in a half-ton when you take payload in to consideration.
โOct-11-2013 09:45 PM
aedubber wrote:
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The Dodge Ram payload is TERRIBLE so its like your almost forced to get a 2500 on the Ram model.
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โOct-10-2013 03:17 PM
N-Trouble wrote:
Airbags are not meant to increase payload, only level the truck. Payload is primarily determined by frame and axle ratings after you factor in the overall weight of the vehicle when empty.
โOct-10-2013 02:21 PM
โOct-10-2013 10:50 AM
โOct-09-2013 10:54 PM
owenssailor wrote:
The payload capability in "1/2 ton" pickups is a very real issue. It is not hard to hit the rated limits for the truck. The WD hitch and tongue weight can add up very quickly.
That limit will be reached far sooner than the towing rating.