2016 Titan XD Cummins- TFL

[jerem0621]

Here is the TFL Video

Interesting to note...

Peak TQ- 1800 rpm

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[brulaz]

IdaD wrote:

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I noticed in the photos it only has 6 lug wheels. I wondered if it might have 8.

Don't think so. Not full-float axles either. Otherwise the drive train is appears pretty hefty, to handle the Cummins torque but not for high payloads, I guess. The chassis is also substantial, modified from the NV 3/4-1 ton vans.

[IdaD]

Depending on how they discount it the pricing could be a major problem. I paid less for my Ram than the $41k listed base price in that article. If the only advantage the Titan has over one of the bigger diesels is marginally better fuel economy, that's going to be a tough sell.

I noticed in the photos it only has 6 lug wheels. I wondered if it might have 8.

[transamz9]

Me Again wrote:

brulaz wrote:
Motor Trend has a couple of articles on the truck as well:
Claim ~21 mpgUS on the Hwy portion of their own test run. ~18 combined.MT Mileage

And claim the curb weight of the high end Platinum Reserve truck they tested was 7431#. No GVWR though. A heavy truck ... what will the payload be?
MT weight and specs

Just another diesel grocery getter! Chris

Yes, a heavy one at that. The Platinum Reserve is only 580# lighter than my SRW 3500 Cummins/Asin that is pretty well equipped. My 3500 does really well at getting groceries too. I'm sure it rides better though. LOL!

[IdaD]

brulaz wrote:

GoPackGo wrote:
I don't think I'm impressed by the mpg either. My 2013 F350 dually 4x4 can get 20-23 hwy mpg if I keep it at 55-60.

You really have to compare the F350 on the same track using the same protocols (MT's "Real MPG"). But I don't think MT has done that. But they have tested the RAM 3500. From the same MT article:

In comparison a four-wheel-drive 2014 Ram 3500HD Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab with the 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel I-6 (385 hp, 850 lb-ft) achieved 14.1/17.6/15.5 mpg.

Yep, and I'd also add that car rags probably don't get the best mileage during their road tests. My I6 actually gets a bit better mileage than those guys got in the Nissan. With comparable drivers and conditions I'm sure the Nissan does better than the bigger Cummins, though.

[brulaz]

GoPackGo wrote:
I don't think I'm impressed by the mpg either. My 2013 F350 dually 4x4 can get 20-23 hwy mpg if I keep it at 55-60.

You really have to compare the F350 on the same track using the same protocols (MT's "Real MPG"). But I don't think MT has done that. But they have tested the RAM 3500. From the same MT article:

In comparison a four-wheel-drive 2014 Ram 3500HD Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab with the 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel I-6 (385 hp, 850 lb-ft) achieved 14.1/17.6/15.5 mpg.

[Me_Again]

brulaz wrote:
Motor Trend has a couple of articles on the truck as well:
Claim ~21 mpgUS on the Hwy portion of their own test run. ~18 combined.MT Mileage

And claim the curb weight of the high end Platinum Reserve truck they tested was 7431#. No GVWR though. A heavy truck ... what will the payload be?
MT weight and specs

Just another diesel grocery getter! Chris

[GoPackGo]

I don't think I'm impressed by the mpg either. My 2013 F350 dually 4x4 can get 20-23 hwy mpg if I keep it at 55-60.

[boshog]

Wow, price as tested was 63K. Might just as well buy a RAM Cummins and get payload.

[Cummins12V98]

If I didn't know better I would assume it is a Cummins truck with a Nissan motor!

[brulaz]

Motor Trend has a couple of articles on the truck as well:
Claim ~21 mpgUS on the Hwy portion of their own test run. ~18 combined.MT Mileage

And claim the curb weight of the high end Platinum Reserve truck they tested was 7431#. No GVWR though. A heavy truck ... what will the payload be?
MT weight and specs

[8_1_Van]

The Nissan Cummins Titan at the SEMA show in Las Vegas the past week:

Can this 2016 Nissan Titan XD capture the diesel land speed record?

Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/sema-show/2016-nissan-titan-xd-chases-diesel-land-speed-record#ixzz3r0L2roFJ


http://www.trucktrend.com/news/1511-2016-nissan-titan-xd-gets-measured-for-sema/

[rsh_757]

I love it. I have been waiting for that! The comforts of my wife's Armada and a nicely powered diesel with very comparable weight/power ratio. I won't be trading or selling my CTD Ram anytime soon, but I would gladly fork up for a newer truck of that makeup and give it a solid chance at a long life in my garage.

[The_Mad_Norsky]

Say, that's one nice grocery getter Turtle N Peeps! :B

[FishOnOne]

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Fish wrote:
Just out of curiosity what did you race that cummins with?

32 Chevy with a 572. I ran a 9.6 and he ran a 9.4 with his coolant acting as water injection. :W


My point with the head bolt deal was this: I have never seen a diesel with 4 head bolts last. Some others may know of one but I don't. They all had head sealing issues even bone stock. That's why Ford got away from the stupid 6.0/6.4 four bolt design when they went with their own engine design. "Ford" got it right this time "with this issue". No sealing issues with their 6.7 at all. In all fairness, same goes for the other two. Funny when they go to a more than 4 bolt design the sealing issues go away.

Will this engine be the one that breaks the rule? I don't know? Cummins has a dam good design team but even the best make mistakes and cut too many corners sometimes.

I'm also not a big fan of chains to drive things after seeing what happen to my 6.5 chain. It was junk, and I do mean JUNK at 130K. And this is a heavy OEM chain. Look what is happing to the Ecoboost timing chains. Again, more problems with stupid chains and this is with a super light duty engine let alone a big diesel engine with heavy valves and high valve spring pressure.

Can Cummins design around these issues? I sure hope, so but there is no way in hell I would be a test monkey on a 50 grand bet on the table. There is a lot of gamblers with a lot of money on this forum. I'm not one of them. 🙂

I like that '32 Chevy. And it halls balls too! :B

[otrfun]

rjstractor wrote:

kw/00 wrote:
I wished that engine was available to other brands of trucks such as Toyota. The Nissan has never caught my eye and frankly its not a truck that I would buy. However it would be nice in a Tundra. Or if GM got going on the rumored 4.5 duramax for the 1/2 tons that would fit the bill for a lot of RV 1/2 ton owners. Regardless I can see a lot of sales for Nissan due to the engine alone, good move on there part.

Looks like you'll likely get your wish. Hopefully Toyota will too produce a truck with decent payload. Here's my source

This article ref a Tundra Cummins V8 was posted quite a while ago. Not a peep out of Toyota since this rumor started back in late 2013, early 2014. Very seriously doubt it's gonna happen.

IMO, Nissan beat Toyota to the punch with the 5.0 Cummins V8 with the help of Fred Diaz (former Ram CEO) who jumped ship from Ram to Nissan a few years back.

Toyota's operating philosophy is so, so conservative it's painful--lol! On the plus side, there is a perception that Toyota vehicles are more reliable given their reluctance to make big dramatic changes.