2500 Ram payload

[dcpac]

I am buying a Ram Outdoorsman crew cab with the 6.4 Hemi and 4.10 axle. The Ram website states the payload is 2926. Does anyone know if this payload is true? I worry there is some small print or something I might be missing.

Thanks

[SouthpawHD]

I can't believe I'm going to admit this - I'm considering a 2015 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 and 3.73, and the payload sticker is just a bit over 3,000 pounds.

Have to admit, the truck road pretty decent unloaded compared to a GM 2500. However, the styling of the dash and some of the technology is lacking compared to a comparable GM.

[winehead]

My 2014 6.4 Mega Laramie with 3.73 is 2538

[kmbelt]

my 2014 has the 6.4 and 3.73's. my sticker shows just shy of #3100's.

[NC_Hauler]

ShinerBock wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:


RAWR on my truck by Ram is 9750#, per AAM it's 11,500#.. GCWR on my truck is 37,500#, I weigh the combo,which is bar less than that and that# will be on my registration, right now it's licensed for 28K.

The 11,500 lbs AAM rates your axle is the axle itself. The 9,750 lbs Ram rates your axle is the axle system which includes suspension and tires.

I know how both are rated, but thank you anyway for the info.

[NC_Hauler]

ShinerBock wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.

In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

Why on earth would one even think I am talking about a DRW when comparing a 3500 and a 2500? Do I really have to make that clarification here?

Guess I'm just stupid..Saw 3500, and stated difference in rear axle between 3500 SRW and 3500 DRW, and went from there, sorry to have upset you so badly,,,,You don't have to clarify, it was just a human mistake. on my part..I make those quite often. I'll try not toes reply to any of your post so not to cause uncalled for confusion.

[Cummins12V98]

ShinerBock wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.


In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

Why on earth would one even think I am talking about a DRW when comparing a 3500 and a 2500? Do I really have to make that clarification here?

YES :B

[ShinerBock]

NC Hauler wrote:


RAWR on my truck by Ram is 9750#, per AAM it's 11,500#.. GCWR on my truck is 37,500#, I weigh the combo,which is bar less than that and that# will be on my registration, right now it's licensed for 28K.

The 11,500 lbs AAM rates your axle is the axle itself. The 9,750 lbs Ram rates your axle is the axle system which includes suspension and tires.

[ShinerBock]

NC Hauler wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.


In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

Why on earth would one even think I am talking about a DRW when comparing a 3500 and a 2500? Do I really have to make that clarification here?

[goducks10]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Bottom line when towing a 5th wheel there will be very little weight added to the front suspension. Example my hitch is set full forward and I only add about maybe 150# to the front axle. So do the math weigh a 2500's rear axle add 600# to that number for toolbox and hitch, now subtract that number from what the max weight the two rear tires can carry at max inflation. Take 25% of the RV's GVWR add that number to what the theoretical weight of the rear axle should weigh. Are you more or less than what the tires can carry?

x2

[Cummins12V98]

Bottom line when towing a 5th wheel there will be very little weight added to the front suspension. Example my hitch is set full forward and I only add about maybe 150# to the front axle. So do the math weigh a 2500's rear axle add 600# to that number for toolbox and hitch, now subtract that number from what the max weight the two rear tires can carry at max inflation. Take 25% of the RV's GVWR add that number to what the theoretical weight of the rear axle should weigh. Are you more or less than what the tires can carry?

[NC_Hauler]

IdaD wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.


In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

I'm not sure what the DRWs are offhand. SRW is 6500 in the 2500 and 7000 in the 3500.

SB is correct that the SRW versions are identical aside from the rear spring setup. The coils are rated to carry up to about 3300 lbs in the 6.4 version of the Ram, so they're definitely stouter than the official payload rating would indicate.

As far as how much the trucks can haul, that's up to the owner I guess. I personally put a lot more stock in the axle ratings than I do the payload rating, given the reason for the payload rating and common sense about the truck itself.

RAWR on my truck by Ram is 9750#, per AAM it's 11,500#.. GCWR on my truck is 37,500#, I weigh the combo,which is bar less than that and that# will be on my registration, right now it's licensed for 28K.

[IdaD]

NC Hauler wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.


In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

I'm not sure what the DRWs are offhand. SRW is 6500 in the 2500 and 7000 in the 3500.

SB is correct that the SRW versions are identical aside from the rear spring setup. The coils are rated to carry up to about 3300 lbs in the 6.4 version of the Ram, so they're definitely stouter than the official payload rating would indicate.

As far as how much the trucks can haul, that's up to the owner I guess. I personally put a lot more stock in the axle ratings than I do the payload rating, given the reason for the payload rating and common sense about the truck itself.

[NC_Hauler]

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

RAWR on the 3500 dually with Aisin is rated far more than 500# over the 2500's RAWR, unless you were comparing a 3500 SRW truck to the 2500, if so, THAT I agree with.


In NC you're supposed to license for combined weight of truck and what you're towing. it's stated as such on the registration, (GCW)

[blt2ski]

ShinerBock wrote:
When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.

As the ol saying goes when it comes to MANY thing RV wise, "IT DEPENDS" While I should not say we are discussing the diapers, we are to a degree......

As Shiner noted, MANY states do not follow the door sticker. Some do. In Wa st where I am, I AM legal to what I license my truck for in even ton amounts. I can not buy an 8600 gvwr license for my C2500. I can buy an 8 or 10K plate, I am legal to what ever plate I buy. So reality is, I can buy an extra 1400 lbs payload by paying an extra $15-20 of tonneage. So in my case, the camper load sticker in glove box with a total of 3800 lbs of total payload, means squat! EXCEPT from a warranty basis.

Hence why my initial "IT DEPENDS" is the real answer. Do you want to stay with in warranty basis, it is on the door sticker, which can vary based on options ordered. If you want the most payload for a given bady model size, a stripped model is best. Add in leather etc, you have anywhere from 300-700+ lbs of lost payload. Electric windows are a 30 lbs PER DOOR deduct in payload. Cruise is 1-2 lbs.

Then if you live in a state like mine, my min toneage is 1.5 time tare, ie empty wt of the truck to the next higher ton. So like many with diesel crew or ext cabs in the 7-8K base wt, they are licensed at 12K lbs. NOT the 8800 to 10000 as the door sticker says. A gain of 2000-3200 lbs of payload per the DOL. The folks that have had this happen, are ALL legal to 12K. We get up to 20K per axel, as long as we have at least 20" of tire width per side, or 500 lbs per inch width of tire. THAT is the engineer based design limit of the road bed. THAT is what the LEO/CVEO's enforce. NOT the door sticker limit.
BUT, if I tried to run down the road at about 20K, ie max limit of a typical sw truck with 10" tires, trust me, you will get taken off the road for being unsafe. You may not get hit for being overweight. but brakes will more than likely be your failing point!

So, real answer sorry to repeat....."It Depends"

Marty

[ShinerBock]

When it comes to the diesel 250/2500 trucks, the limiting factor of its payload is the max 10,000 lbs of the Class 2B that it is in rather than what the trucks can actually handle. This has been proven time and time again. The 2500s in my 2014 model year shared every component with the 3500 except for the rear suspension which had a GAWR of only 500 lbs less yet it's GVWR was over 1500 lbs less because it was maxed out by its class.

This is why I have no worries putting 2,500 lbs on my 2500 even when it is only rated at 1,880 lbs by the door sticker. The police don't go by the door sticker and cannot enforce it where I am from. All they can enforce is what you register your truck as. That little weight rating on the door essentially means nothing here.