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Am I stretching my ecoboost limits?

WI_Bowhunter
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I am considering purchasing a new travel trailer soon. Was wondering what you guys think about tow vehicle to trailer. I have a 2011 F150 Ecoboost 3.5 with Max Towing, 3.73, 11200 GTWR, 1897 Payload, 17100 GCWR.


The trailer I am considering is a Salem 31QBTS.
Dry Weight 8140
Hitch weight 885
Cargo Cap. 2867(will not load more than 1500 tops including fresh water)

I figure total trailer weight to be around 9500-9700 loaded.

let me know your opinions and experience! Thanks
Keep the Shiny Side Up!;)

2011 F150 Supercrew, 4X4 3.5 Ecoboost, 145" wheelbase, 3.73 gears, Max trailer Tow package

2014 Puma 30DBSS
Equali-I-Zer WD Hitch

3 kids and 1 DW
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kirklandsc
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I bought a 2013 Keystone Premier 31 BHPR last month and pulled it 50 miles with my 2011 Nissan Titan CC 4x4 with Terra Grapplers, Bilstein shocks, Volant intake, Magnaflow exhaust and a programmer and thought it pulled good. It is dry weight of 6300lbs and gvwr of 8000. I took a day off work a week later and pulled it around for about 100 miles unloaded with no family in the truck. Last Thursday I traded the Titan for a 2013 F-250 XLT CC 4x4 10k GVWR. No way in he#@ I am going to risk the safety of my family. Did it have the power to pull it. Yes. Would I have felt safe with anyone else in the truck pulling it fully loaded, NO WAY. My new truck tells the TT what to do instead of the opposite.
2013 Keystone Bullet Premier 31 BHPR
2013 Ford F-250 Supercrew 4x4 6.2L gasser (10,000GVWR)

CND_SuperCrew
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We didn't want a SB so I guess we ended up with the best we could. Thx for the explanation makes sense now....
TV 2012 F150 loaded XLT EB SuperCrew 7700GVWR Maxtow 6.5'
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goducks10
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
Not to digress from the original post but unless you have the HD pkg that can't be. My truck only has 1700# of pay load in a GVWR of 7700 which the dealer told me was the highest that could be had without ordering the HD pkg of 8200 GVWR. I don't see how a 145" WB with a GVWR of 7650#(the highest I was shown) can have 1800# payload. I must be really missing something.....


My 10 F150 SuperCrew 145" 4x4 xlt 5.4 3.73 maxtow had 1857lbs. Also had the 7650lb GVW

c4s
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
Not to digress from the original post but unless you have the HD pkg that can't be. My truck only has 1700# of pay load in a GVWR of 7700 which the dealer told me was the highest that could be had without ordering the HD pkg of 8200 GVWR. I don't see how a 145" WB with a GVWR of 7650#(the highest I was shown) can have 1800# payload. I must be really missing something.....


1800lbs can be had with 145" WB. I'm looking at a '12 XLT (XTR), max tow, Ecoboost, 145" screw and the payload sticker on the door says 1804lbs. It even has the 20" wheels on it! I think you can see closer to 1900lbs if you get a more stripped down trim level.

APT
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
Not to digress from the original post but unless you have the HD pkg that can't be. My truck only has 1700# of pay load in a GVWR of 7700 which the dealer told me was the highest that could be had without ordering the HD pkg of 8200 GVWR. I don't see how a 145" WB with a GVWR of 7650#(the highest I was shown) can have 1800# payload. I must be really missing something.....


The max towing package on crew cab 4WD F-150 means 7650 pound GVWR for 5.5' bed, 7700 pounds for 6.5' beds. Do you think the extra foot of bed weights more or less than the 50 pound GVWR delta? I think it's about 125 pounds, net of 75 pound loss.

Is your truck a no option XL?
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BenK
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Load up your Egoboost and go to the scales to weigh it

Then take the GVWR and F/R GAWR to do some simple math

That is the only true way to know what your 'payload' is and if over the limits

Therefore stretching your TV's limits
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joebedford
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Kevin O. wrote:
You will find yourself building up speed going down steep grades and end up having to ride the breaks hoping they don't overheat by the time you get to the bottom.
Don't ride the brakes - they will overheat. Use the brakes to slow down then let off to let them cool. Then when the speed builds up again use your now cool brakes to slow down again. (Or get a suitable TV.)

CND_SuperCrew
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Not to digress from the original post but unless you have the HD pkg that can't be. My truck only has 1700# of pay load in a GVWR of 7700 which the dealer told me was the highest that could be had without ordering the HD pkg of 8200 GVWR. I don't see how a 145" WB with a GVWR of 7650#(the highest I was shown) can have 1800# payload. I must be really missing something.....
TV 2012 F150 loaded XLT EB SuperCrew 7700GVWR Maxtow 6.5'
TT 2021 Keystone Passport GT 2870RL

WI_Bowhunter
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
That still seems too highโ€ฆ for the 145" wheelbase


That's what is on the door.
Keep the Shiny Side Up!;)

2011 F150 Supercrew, 4X4 3.5 Ecoboost, 145" wheelbase, 3.73 gears, Max trailer Tow package

2014 Puma 30DBSS
Equali-I-Zer WD Hitch

3 kids and 1 DW

EcoBullet
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
That still seems too highโ€ฆ for the 145" wheelbase


Shouldn't be too far off. The sticker on my 145" XLT 4X4 is 1794 lbs, only about 70 pounds different. My tailgate step might weigh nearly that much.
Me 1954, Nana 1954, Grandson 2003, Granddaughters 2005 & 2008
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AlmostAnOldGuy
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jerem0621 wrote:
Anybody know where the payload would be with a supercrew lariat 6.5 bed max to and HD payload?

My dealer said he couldn't locate the HD payload package with this configuration.....????


I have a 2012 of that truck in my driveway. It shows a payload of 2176. There were none to be found on any dealer lots so I ordered this one. Fortunately X-Plan pricing was available through work which helped out.

Currently I am towing 8k and it has done well, however I need to run it through some mountains to get a better feel for how it compares to my last rig which was a 3/4 ton Suburban.

Per the OPs question I would not tow a travel trailer of 9.5k.

Good luck,
Stu
2012 F150 HD/Max Payload (8200 GVWR, 2176 payload) SuperCrew EcoBoost
2008 Komfort Trailblazer T254S

Buck50HD
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jerem0621 wrote:
Anybody know where the payload would be with a supercrew lariat 6.5 bed max to and HD payload?

My dealer said he couldn't locate the HD payload package with this configuration.....????


Tell him to pick 3.73 limited slip...
New: 2014 F250 Lariat 6.2 Crew 4x4 3.73 156", 2725 lb payload
Old: 2012 F150 XLT ECO Screw 157" 4x4 3.73LS Max Tow HD Payload, 2171 lb payload
2013 Heartland Sundance XLT 285BH (7750/8800lb, 1400/1700pin, dry/loaded)

CND_SuperCrew
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That still seems too highโ€ฆ for the 145" wheelbase
TV 2012 F150 loaded XLT EB SuperCrew 7700GVWR Maxtow 6.5'
TT 2021 Keystone Passport GT 2870RL

WI_Bowhunter
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CND SuperCrew wrote:
WI Bowhunter wrote:
I am considering purchasing a new travel trailer soon. Was wondering what you guys think about tow vehicle to trailer. I have a 2011 F150 Ecoboost 3.5 with Max Towing, 3.73, 11200 GTWR, 1897 Payload, 17100 GCWR.


The trailer I am considering is a Salem 31QBTS.
Dry Weight 8140
Hitch weight 885
Cargo Cap. 2867(will not load more than 1500 tops including fresh water)

I figure total trailer weight to be around 9500-9700 loaded.

let me know your opinions and experience! Thanks


Im sorry but there is no way you have that much payload capacity on a 145" wheelbase. I come in at 1700# with everything you can add for towing minus the HD pkg


I'm sorry, I had a huge typo...it is 1867 payload, not 2867. :S
Keep the Shiny Side Up!;)

2011 F150 Supercrew, 4X4 3.5 Ecoboost, 145" wheelbase, 3.73 gears, Max trailer Tow package

2014 Puma 30DBSS
Equali-I-Zer WD Hitch

3 kids and 1 DW