Any Superduty Gas 6.2L User Reports?

[Kampfirekid]

6.2L 1/2 tons need not respond.

Looking for some real world towing and daily driving experiences and numbers. I'm having a hard time justifying a diesel as a daily driver anymore when I only tow 10k about 12 times a year. A 1/2 ton won't cut the 1,400 tongue weight, so I need a 3/4 to 1 ton truck. Also, trying to justify the gas over diesel. I drive about 30,000 a year, and also am concerned at 100k in three years, the gasser will be worth squat and less desirable on trade. With repairs on diesel, I'm not interested in owning one past 100k. The 6.2L is looking better all the time. Any real world experience is appreciated.

[Columbis]

Hello,
I currently tow with 2012 Ford F350 6.2 gas w/4.30 gears. a new purchase October 2014 Sabre Silhouette 5th wheel 35' long. Trailer estimated weight at 10005(food,stuff,1/3 fresh water,6gal water heater, 2 30gal propane full, battery, and some gray and black tank water). Truck weighing in at 10189(passengers,cargo,5th wheel hitch,20% pin weight). Total Combined gcwr=20194. Only camped for a week and half, trips from Minnisota to southern Missouri to SE Illionis. Averaged 9/10. Tow haul mode and hills at 3500 rpms in 4th gear, never kicked to 3rd gear. Engine braking worked great when coming through Kansas city, bunched up in traffic and putting the brakes on for semi trucks. When cruising I had to really look in the tow mirrors and remind myself that I was towing a 35' 5th wheel. Very pleased with the whole setup. I believe this truck should see 200-300,000 miles as long as all maintenance is done. Oil gets changed at 4000 miles or 4 months either way. Oil has advanced but the oil filters have not. I use Motorcraft 5w20 semi-synthetic and motor craft oil filter FL820-s(Walmart $3.97). Better off changing the oil filter at 3-4000 and drop another quart in for another 3-4000. Either way we love the truck. Just an Xl but has all the integrated bells that go with towing. Came with the integrated 5th/goose prep-package. All I had to do was ordered the Reese Elite 5th wheel hitch, lube plate, cover and it dropped right in the puck system. ADDED NOTE:
My two cents. I work at a Dodge dealership in the used service department. Any truck that is traded in whether diesel or gas if it has over 100,000 miles it is usually whole saled for auction. A couple in the last 3 years we retailed. One chevy duramax with 89000 on it, Ford Lariet 6.4 93000, and one older dodge 5.9 diesel which sold quick but we took a loss for pricing it to low. Most used trucks sold for retail are bumped up quite a bit and won't come down much money wise $3-500 on sale. The whole sale auction goes to highest bidder. I even asked about the million mile diesel saying, but there response is that yea, the diesel motor will go a million miles but not everything else. I think if the maintenance is always done then the vehicle will give years of reliable service. I do remember one Ford F250 with 283000 miles on it. Still sounded good but again it went to the whole sale lot. Another web site to check out is the ford truck enthusiast forum. Lot of info there also, Good Luck.

[jerem0621]

I do not have a 6.2 V8 Super Duty but some of the comments about 10,000 lbs being about max for this motor are unfounded.

According to the 2014 Ford SuperDuty Towing Guide

A Crew Cab 4x4 F250 with the 6.2 is rated at 12,500 lbs with a conventional trailer and 15,100 lbs fifth wheel towing with 4:30 gears.

I would not be afraid to tow this trailer or put the 30,000 miles a year on this truck. That is if I were going to keep the truck until it dies.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[blackeyed1]

Glad to see this topic. I have a 2008 6.4L CC LB that I'm probably going to sell in spring and look for a 6.2L gas truck.

[Jack_Diane_Free]

Rear end ratio is 3.73

[B_O__Plenty]

TomG2 wrote:

ScottG wrote:
In your case I think the high mileage you'll put on it justifies a diesel.
At 30K a year the gas truck wont be worth much after a few years but the diesel will hold its value and be worth a lot more after even more miles.

I misread the NADA comparison the first time. The diesel will be worth about $7,000 more after four years and 100,000 miles.

But the diesel will cost $8,000. more when you buy it. Plus the oil changes, maintenance and cost of fuel is much higher. I just traded out of a 2010 Ram diesel with 96,000 miles. It cost me $342.00 a month to own it just in depreciation, but then too it was a Dodge...I'm thinking that higher trade in stuff is baloney..I lost a HUGE chunk on that thing. I would have bought gas this time in a heartbeat if I wasn't planning on getting a bigger fiver.

B.O.

[Kampfirekid]

TomG2 wrote:

ScottG wrote:
In your case I think the high mileage you'll put on it justifies a diesel.
At 30K a year the gas truck wont be worth much after a few years but the diesel will hold its value and be worth a lot more after even more miles.

I misread the NADA comparison the first time. The diesel will be worth about $7,000 more after four years and 100,000 miles.

That's about what the diesel costs initially below invoice. So, basically, I finance the diesel option for the duration I own the tuck, lose nothing on it, but really gain nothing except towing performance. Actually, the gasser does save on oil changes, fuel filter changes, antifreeze checks and replacements, etc. Fuel costs at $1.00 a gallon cheaper also save, but not sure the few hundred is worth it.

Thanks for all replies.

[NWKomfort350]

Jack_Diane_Freedom wrote:
I am on my 2nd 6.2 Superduty and both are excellent. Had a 2011 and now a 2014 towing a 2012 Open Range Roamer 316RLS with a UVW of a little over 8000 lbs. Not weighed but I would estimate the loaded weight to be at least 9500 lbs or more. 6.2 does a wonderful job of towing and I do not know mileage as you get what you get and knowing the numbers in my opinion does not change anything. On the flats it will settle down into 6th gear and just drone along at 100 km/hr.

Have towed thousand of kilometers with the 6.2 and have no complaints. Ride is excellent and I always use the manual down shift for engine braking on steep hills between Toronto and Fort Myers Beach and Toronto and Thunder Bay Ontario to the north.

Great truck obviously I am on my 2nd one.

What is your rear end ratio? 3.73 or 4.30?

[TomG2]

ScottG wrote:
In your case I think the high mileage you'll put on it justifies a diesel.
At 30K a year the gas truck wont be worth much after a few years but the diesel will hold its value and be worth a lot more after even more miles.

I misread the NADA comparison the first time. The diesel will be worth about $7,000 more after four years and 100,000 miles.

[ScottG]

In your case I think the high mileage you'll put on it justifies a diesel.
At 30K a year the gas truck wont be worth much after a few years but the diesel will hold its value and be worth a lot more after even more miles.

[TNRIVERSIDE]

Very good comments. I did notice that the maintance (oil and filters) has not been included in the comparison. It looks like the cost incurred in diesel maintance would be an issue too.

[Jack_Diane_Free]

I am on my 2nd 6.2 Superduty and both are excellent. Had a 2011 and now a 2014 towing a 2012 Open Range Roamer 316RLS with a UVW of a little over 8000 lbs. Not weighed but I would estimate the loaded weight to be at least 9500 lbs or more. 6.2 does a wonderful job of towing and I do not know mileage as you get what you get and knowing the numbers in my opinion does not change anything. On the flats it will settle down into 6th gear and just drone along at 100 km/hr.

Have towed thousand of kilometers with the 6.2 and have no complaints. Ride is excellent and I always use the manual down shift for engine braking on steep hills between Toronto and Fort Myers Beach and Toronto and Thunder Bay Ontario to the north.

Great truck obviously I am on my 2nd one.

[nohurry]

We love ours. Pulls our current TT very well. I'm on the other end of you though as the truck is only for towing, and hauling, so I've only got 8K miles on it in a year and a half. I'm still 6 years from retirement so I have a car for commuting. With 3:73 gears I get 16 MPG's HWY, 12-13 overall, and 8-10 towing. For you, towing 10K I would definitely order a truck with the 4:30 gear ratio. It will tow your trailer just fine, and if you keep the speed down your mileage won't suffer much. The latest Ford gas engines have an excellent longevity record, and you can expect 200K miles out of it if maintained. 30k miles a year is a lot though, so if you have the $ to spend on all that fuel, go for it. If it were me, I would keep that Lariat you have and get a commuter.

I know what your saying on the 1/2 tons. Even though the HD version of the EcoBoost is probably awesome, I went from a 1/2 to 3/4 ton and will never go back. Overall towing experience is much better.

[tbred]

Have a 2012 f250 6.2, traded our 2008 f250 6.4 diesel for it. Average around 9 mpg. towing 8500 lb. loaded tt, 12 around town and 16 hwy.

Love the truck, tows tt easily and very comfortable to ride in. No problems whatsoever.

We had a few scares with the 6.4 diesel and really had no need for dealing with possible very expensive diesel repairs. The lower upfront cost and lower gas vs. diesel cost more than makes up for a couple mpg. deficit.

Fwiw, we also gained 400 lbs. payload with the 6.2

[valhalla360]

I'd say you are on the borderline.
- You are near the upper limits of what the gas engine is rated for. Much bigger and diesel would be the recommendation.
- If you will be in the mountains a lot, the diesel exhaust brake function will be nice but not really neccessary unless you are in the mountains a lot.
- Given current fuel prices, at best the diesel will run about the same cost per mile driven. If you assume they will quickly return to what they were over the last few years, at 30k miles/yr, it will probably be a break even on fuel savings vs up front cost. Push that up to 50k miles and diesel might pay for itself but that depends on gas prices increasing significantly.

I believe the days of diesel longevity playing a part are over. Gas engines are far more reliable than they were 20-30yrs ago and diesel engines are far more complicated.

If you are going used, I would leave my options open and buy the best deal you come across. (which we did, previous truck was diesel and current truck is gas for a what is a slightly lighter 5th wheel)

[RJCorazza]

We like our 2011 F250 6.2L. Tow about 8500lb trailer easily, but many complain about the rpm's when going uphill - doesn't bother me though.
I drive conservatively and my numbers are 8-9 mpg towing, 12-13mpg average not towing, 14 mpg highway. This is in the rolling hills of Maryland.
FYI, my 2011 specs a max hitch tongue weight rating of 1200lbs with WD from the factory.