โAug-26-2013 01:37 PM
โAug-30-2013 11:37 PM
Charlie D. wrote:
The OP asked about a Chevrolet transmission not a Ford. If he reads and follows the manual it says Chevy does not recommend a flush. He will be better off following his manual than getting conflicting opinions from owners of the BIG 3. Now I have expressed my opinion.:)
Automatic Transmission Fluid
(4-Speed Transmission)
When to Check and Change Automatic
Transmission Fluid
A good time to check the automatic transmission fluid
level is when the engine oil is changed..
Change the fluid and filter at the intervals listed in
Scheduled Maintenance on page 7?3 and be sure to
use the transmission fluid listed in Recommended
Fluids and Lubricants on page 7?13.
Automatic Transmission Fluid
(6-Speed Transmission)
When to Check and Change Automatic
Transmission Fluid
It is usually not necessary to check the transmission
fluid level. The only reason for fluid loss is a
transmission leak or overheating the transmission.
If you suspect a small leak, then use the following
checking procedures to check the fluid level. However,
if there is a large leak, then it may be necessary to have
the vehicle towed to a dealer/retailer service department
and have it repaired before driving the vehicle further.
Notice: Use of the incorrect automatic transmission
fluid may damage the vehicle, and the damages may
not be covered by the vehicle's warranty. Always
use the automatic transmission fluid listed in
Recommended Fluids and Lubricants on page 7?13.
Change the fluid and filter at the intervals listed in the
Maintenance Schedule. See Scheduled Maintenance
on page 7?3. Be sure to use the transmission fluid
listed in Recommended Fluids and Lubricants on
page 7?13.
โAug-30-2013 06:44 PM
45Ricochet wrote:Charlie D. wrote:
The OP asked about a Chevrolet transmission not a Ford. If he reads and follows the manual it says Chevy does not recommend a flush. He will be better off following his manual than getting conflicting opinions from owners of the BIG 3. Now I have expressed my opinion.:)
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Great advice since we are comparing apples and oranges. Personally I only flush when going #2 :B
โAug-30-2013 06:22 PM
Charlie D. wrote:
The OP asked about a Chevrolet transmission not a Ford. If he reads and follows the manual it says Chevy does not recommend a flush. He will be better off following his manual than getting conflicting opinions from owners of the BIG 3. Now I have expressed my opinion.:)
โAug-30-2013 04:52 PM
LarryJM wrote:352 wrote:LarryJM wrote:BurbMan wrote:LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
Thanks for clarifying. You can change your transmission fluid any way you like :B
No problem and unlike some others just doing a pan drop and fill is sort of like doing an engine oil change and putting 2/3s of the old oil mixed with 1/3 new oil back into the engine.:S Not what I consider a good maintenance practice.:R
But as you said one can do the maintenance whatever way they want.:W
Larry
WOW. Some people just assume. Just ask someone that does the transmission work at a dealership which one is best. He will explain why and you will never flush it again or maybe you will.
Then you need to find another dealership and not listen to the every day JOE doing routine transmission work. Remember I said flush using the pump in the tranny which is simply a complete "FLUID EXCHANGE" and not an external machine like the ever popular B&M one. Doing a power flush, back flush, or using chemicals is IMO a NO NO. There are fluid exchange machines that do it correctly. What I advocate is a procedure developed by Mark Kovalsky specifically for the 4R100 over on THEDIESELSTOP who was a FORD Tranny Engineer for many years and is what I consider a TRUE EXPERT in trannies in general and FORD trannies specifically. This procedure should be adaptable for other transmissions since it's fairly straight forward and very simple.
Larry
โAug-30-2013 04:11 PM
LarryJM wrote:352 wrote:LarryJM wrote:BurbMan wrote:LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
Thanks for clarifying. You can change your transmission fluid any way you like :B
No problem and unlike some others just doing a pan drop and fill is sort of like doing an engine oil change and putting 2/3s of the old oil mixed with 1/3 new oil back into the engine.:S Not what I consider a good maintenance practice.:R
But as you said one can do the maintenance whatever way they want.:W
Larry
WOW. Some people just assume. Just ask someone that does the transmission work at a dealership which one is best. He will explain why and you will never flush it again or maybe you will.
Then you need to find another dealership and not listen to the every day JOE doing routine transmission work. Remember I said flush using the pump in the tranny which is simply a complete "FLUID EXCHANGE" and not an external machine like the ever popular B&M one. Doing a power flush, back flush, or using chemicals is IMO a NO NO. There are fluid exchange machines that do it correctly. What I advocate is a procedure developed by Mark Kovalsky specifically for the 4R100 over on THEDIESELSTOP who was a FORD Tranny Engineer for many years and is what I consider a TRUE EXPERT in trannies in general and FORD trannies specifically. This procedure should be adaptable for other transmissions since it's fairly straight forward and very simple.
Larry
โAug-30-2013 02:15 PM
352 wrote:LarryJM wrote:BurbMan wrote:LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
Thanks for clarifying. You can change your transmission fluid any way you like :B
No problem and unlike some others just doing a pan drop and fill is sort of like doing an engine oil change and putting 2/3s of the old oil mixed with 1/3 new oil back into the engine.:S Not what I consider a good maintenance practice.:R
But as you said one can do the maintenance whatever way they want.:W
Larry
WOW. Some people just assume. Just ask someone that does the transmission work at a dealership which one is best. He will explain why and you will never flush it again or maybe you will.
โAug-30-2013 01:27 PM
LarryJM wrote:BurbMan wrote:LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
Thanks for clarifying. You can change your transmission fluid any way you like :B
No problem and unlike some others just doing a pan drop and fill is sort of like doing an engine oil change and putting 2/3s of the old oil mixed with 1/3 new oil back into the engine.:S Not what I consider a good maintenance practice.:R
But as you said one can do the maintenance whatever way they want.:W
Larry
โAug-30-2013 12:43 PM
BurbMan wrote:LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
Thanks for clarifying. You can change your transmission fluid any way you like :B
โAug-30-2013 12:14 PM
LarryJM wrote:
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.
โAug-30-2013 12:01 PM
pronstar wrote:
<--- another vote for dropping the pan and changing the filter.
Never been a fan of power-flush exchange machines.
Any fluid that goes into my truck, is poured from a bottle that I buy.
โAug-30-2013 11:53 AM
โAug-30-2013 11:53 AM
Vulcaneer wrote:
Follow your manufacturers specification for severe duty. Drain pan and torque converter, new filters.
To those that say change when the fluid starts to look dark and smells a little burnt. Isn't that like saying wait until the tranny just starts to fail? Once the clutches start to wear, changing the fluid is not going to add material to the clutches.
โAug-30-2013 11:34 AM
โAug-30-2013 10:23 AM
โAug-30-2013 12:40 AM
BurbMan wrote:
IMO, it's more valuable to drop the pan and change the filter than it is to flush 100% of the fluid. You will have 3/4 of the fluid replaced by dropping the pan, and the remaining 25% of teh old fluid won't hurt anything.
04 service manual for the 4l60-4l65-E says 5 quarts for pan removal. Complete flush, including converter is approx. 12 quarts.