Mar-04-2014 12:34 PM
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Mar-05-2014 06:43 AM
Around the decade change of 1900/2000 the feds mandated that producers change to the new ULSD
Mar-05-2014 06:42 AM
artguys wrote:
As can happen it starts in one direction then goes off the edge...so I'll make a this is my best attempt to outline what the disparities are about.
The factors concerning fuel costs today are:
Supply
Demand
Distribution
Producers accounting practices, LIFO(Last In First Out)
For the most part production is about cooking then distilling the crude. Those products that come from that process come off of the distillers at different stages. After coming off they are refined and filtered further, most that is. Transportation fuels in the middle, incl. Diesel Gas and Jet fuel...lastly are the tars, or more commonly known as the bottoms by the industry.
Around the decade change of 1900/2000 the feds mandated that producers change to the new ULSD(Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) regs. And even after those costs for infrastructure changes were added to the production cost of diesel, it was still cheaper to produce. Now there are several things in play that dictated the eventual price at the pump for diesel being higher but the dominant three were demand, distribution, and Big Petros' dictating to Washington. Much like Big Pharma and their influences on Washington and their agencies the Petroleum industry can and do influence policy.
Autonomous? A little no...a lotta yes.
Mar-05-2014 06:36 AM
Mar-05-2014 06:33 AM
artguys wrote:That, and the OP is gone.
As can happen it starts in one direction then goes off the edge...
Mar-05-2014 06:27 AM
Mar-05-2014 05:56 AM
RAS43 wrote:RinconVTR wrote:
Everyone is focused on the fuel cost vs all the other points the OP brings up. Interesting.
The OP only brought up the fuel costs. What other points?
Mar-05-2014 04:36 AM
Mar-05-2014 04:23 AM
GoPackGo wrote:
Monkey44 wrote - "I find that hard to believe - if you buy a diesel today, at say anywhere from $7k - $9K over a gas version, and you get down around 250K-300K miles or so, you have an older worn out body and seats, and heater, and A/C, and wires, and alternators, and undercarriage, and etc etc... So, what makes anyone imagine a truck of that age will bring $7k or $9k more than a gasser, "
I did not say you would get back 100% of the additional premium that a diesel will cost. I said 'a lot' - and I stand by that statement. Compared to a gas engined truck with 250-300k miles on it (maybe already rebuilt at least once ?), the same truck with a diesel engine will be worth much more.
Mar-04-2014 10:42 PM
Mar-04-2014 09:06 PM
skyhammer wrote:
Where I live on the NW coast of Calif. diesel is about 10 cents cheaper than premium.
Empty, my DRW gets about 5MPG more than my half ton truck.
Fully loaded I get between 10-12MPG with the DRW.
Carrying 1/5 the weight of the DRW, my 1/2 ton gets 8MPG fully loaded.
Mar-04-2014 08:32 PM