โDec-23-2015 07:48 AM
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โDec-26-2015 09:23 AM
hvac wrote:
Regarding overall noise of vehicle, what happened to decebil meter violations?? Motorcycles included. I mean local agencies could really generate revenue by just enforcing existing laws already on the books.
โDec-26-2015 06:47 AM
โDec-25-2015 01:53 PM
High Sierra wrote:I don't see that to be a "problem " at all!!! ๐
Problem is they are going to be around as you can't wear them out.
โDec-24-2015 01:41 PM
โDec-24-2015 09:19 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
This is FACT. The 1994 Dodge/Cummins trucks that were made prior to 1/1/1994 DID NOT have a CAT, the ones that were made 1/1/94 and thru mfg date of 12/31/1997 DID have a CAT. The pre Cat 94's had a section of exhaust pipe where the Cat would go starting 1/1/94.
So my question is it a "sin" to remove the CAT and buy the section of pipe that Chrysler has sitting on their shelves and install in place of the cat on the ones that came with a CAT?
โDec-24-2015 08:36 AM
mkirsch wrote:
It's a good thing, with mainstream media traditionally depicting diesel vehicles as "noisy, smelly, and messy." Such treatment really hurts the development and availability of these amazing powerplants.
โDec-24-2015 08:20 AM
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โDec-24-2015 07:15 AM
WTP-GC wrote:Now I think you're trolling.
Why are people so concerned about something so trivial?
โDec-24-2015 07:10 AM
jfkmk wrote:
From the EPA website:
Defeat devices. It is a violation of the CAA to manufacture, sell, or install a part for a motor vehicle that bypasses, defeats, or renders inoperative any emission control device. For example, computer software that alters diesel fuel injection timing is a defeat device. Defeat devices, which are often sold to enhance engine performance, work by disabling a vehicle's emission controls, causing air pollution. As a result of EPA enforcement, some of the largest manufacturers of defeat devices have agreed to pay penalties and stop the sale of defeat devices.
As for the last part of your arguements, I wholeheartedly agree. The people who believe their "privilege" to modify or defeat an emission control device outweighs someone else's "privilege" or even "right" to breathe clean air is indeed very sad and quite disturbing.
The worst are the sub humans that "roll coal" as they pass a hiker, bicyclist or a vehicle they deem doesn't pollute enough so they spew toxic fumes at them.
Bedlam wrote:
With full disclosure, my feeling is if you can tune an engine to fall withing its emission limits, it should not matter what device you use (following the intent of the law). The Clean Air Act is what has given the EPA power to fine owners and restrict their deleted vehicles.
Emission Standards: https://www.dieselnet.com/standards/
Sale of deleted vehicles: http://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/about-dpf-delete/
Fines for deleted vehicles: http://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/special-report-dpf-deletes/
โDec-24-2015 06:27 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
This is FACT. The 1994 Dodge/Cummins trucks that were made prior to 1/1/1994 DID NOT have a CAT, the ones that were made 1/1/94 and thru mfg date of 12/31/1997 DID have a CAT. The pre Cat 94's had a section of exhaust pipe where the Cat would go starting 1/1/94.
So my question is it a "sin" to remove the CAT and buy the section of pipe that Chrysler has sitting on their shelves and install in place of the cat on the ones that came with a CAT?
โDec-24-2015 06:12 AM
โDec-24-2015 06:07 AM
WTP-GC wrote:
Some of you could do yourselves good by reading the statutes. In general, they can be summarized as follows:
You cannot sell a vehicle that's been tampered with (exceptions exist, of course)
A motor vehicle dealer cannot legally perform emissions deletions without having a waiver signed for off-road use.
An entity cannot sell items specifically to defeat an emission systems (except for off-road use).
You cannot tamper with gasoline powered vehicles that are used on-road.
You cannot have continuous visible emissions longer than 5 seconds unless under acceleration, lugging, deceleration.
There are other things, but that's the gist of it. I've yet to read a statute that prohibits the on-road use of a diesel truck in which the owner has modified/removed emissions equipment. Not to say that one doesn't exist, but I've not seen it. There's been tons of discussion of this for years, but no one has ever seemed to find a statute that says if you (private person) perform your own work to modify your vehicle, then you are in violation of the law. I could be proven wrong, which I would actually welcome. I'm not against knowing the truth, even if it means I'm 100% incorrect.
There's no advice implied above, and I'm just referring to the statutes I've read (both federal and state). Your state might have different rules/regs, so that's up to you.
Note that this entire argument originated with the personal vendetta of someone who believes their privileges outweigh someone else's, which is the saddest and most arrogant position to take.