Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[8_1_Van]

Today diesel is $4.219 and reg unl gas is $3.479 at Flying J here in NJ.

[skram]

I got my diesel truck 2 years ago when the diesel price was starting to surpass regular. Now at twice the price, would I still buy a diesel?

Probably, yes.

I do use less fuel compared to a gasser, although I don't neccesarily save money.
It tows better.
Solid reliable engine.

[rsh_757]

TxCoastCamper wrote:

pronstar wrote:

TxCoastCamper wrote:
Yikes! Diesel dropped from $4.65 to $4.59 at the station I frequent.

I filled up, went home and toasted the event with a bourbon.

And if prices had risen...I think you'd still have had that bourbon 🙂

Yep, lament the rising price with a bourbon.

Tonight, diesel down to $4.49! Time for another...

The short lived experience of gas being more economical than diesel is over. I filled up with diesel for 4.06 after it was 4.69 yesterday. Nearly the same price as regular gas.

[TxCoastCamper]

pronstar wrote:

TxCoastCamper wrote:
Yikes! Diesel dropped from $4.65 to $4.59 at the station I frequent.

I filled up, went home and toasted the event with a bourbon.

And if prices had risen...I think you'd still have had that bourbon 🙂

Yep, lament the rising price with a bourbon.

Tonight, diesel down to $4.49! Time for another...

[8_1_Van]

Jarlaxle wrote:
Let's see...25% price premium for diesel fuel, with a 25-100% boost in miles per gallon. And your point is...?

Wait, you have none, and are merely trying to convince yourself that your gas-hog van is more economical than a diesel truck. Never mind.

Yes, my 8.1 van is much better than my 2003 6.0 PSD Excursion. It gets better mpg per passenger than the 6.0 PSD and cost 1/3 the price.
After two long trips I am convinced it was the best decision ever to sell the 6.0 PSD last fall when diesel was $3.15 a gallon for $24,500 then buy the 8.1 van this spring for $7,900.

Jarlaxle wrote:

No, they sold them because, after the initial disaster, there were still some blindly brand-loyal drones who were dumb enough to buy the modern version of the 350 Olds.

After this catastrophe, Ford deserves to go under.

The Ford apologists were basically covering their ears and hollering LA-LA-LA-LA-I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! anytime there was a problem with the 6.0 PSD.

[poldago]

When Gas vs Diesel must be decided on what you are going to do with the truck!
The diesel engine gets more calories than does the gas out of a liter of fuel.
How heavy is the trailer you wish to pull and where are you going to pull that vehicle! Price per gallon should be towards the bottom of the list.
The whole package will run better if you take the time to do your homework......
For example: if you use more gas, how long before the price of diesel balances out the dollar amount.........
My 2001 Dodge pulls a 12k Carriage and gets 9+ when pulling between Kingman AZ and Las Vegas Nv. This is with the A/c on and 98 Degrees outside. And it is uphill all the way........all 121 miles of it.

[Admin]

If the personal attacks and obscenities don't cease, I will close this thread.

Admin
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[Jarlaxle]

Let's see...25% price premium for diesel fuel, with a 25-100% boost in miles per gallon. And your point is...?

Wait, you have none, and are merely trying to convince yourself that your gas-hog van is more economical than a diesel truck. Never mind.

[8_1_Van]

Gaspricewatch says lowest price for gas is $3.39 in Oklahoma City,OK and Flying J in Oklahoma City is $4.239.

[pronstar]

TxCoastCamper wrote:
Yikes! Diesel dropped from $4.65 to $4.59 at the station I frequent.

I filled up, went home and toasted the event with a bourbon.

And if prices had risen...I think you'd still have had that bourbon 🙂

[Retired_nuke_ET]

Diesel's been slowly dropped over here the last few weeks. The Exxon is usually about average of them all, it went from $4.75 -> $4.65 -> $4.55. There's one BP station though, when it started going up they went up first and the highest, it has stayed steady at $4.90 for well over a month plus until yesterday when it went from $4.90 as I went past going to work to $4.58 on my way home, $0.32 drop in one afternoon! I guess they sucked as much as they could out of those dumb enough to not drive a little further down the road. (I see a lot of dump trucks there and figure they get a lot of commercial customers) I paid $4.53 at Sunnoco less than a mile down the road on Monday. Previously the Sunnoco was $4.65.

[TxCoastCamper]

Yikes! Diesel dropped from $4.65 to $4.59 at the station I frequent.

I filled up, went home and toasted the event with a bourbon.

[Ron44]

Todays fuel prices highway mpg city mpg towing 10k trailer mpg
diesel $4.80 21 17 10.5
per mile cost $0.23 $0.28 $0.46
gas $4.10 17 13 9
per mile cost $0.24 $0.32 $0.46
tried to paste as chart, but didnt work. Chart is showing cost of diesel vs gas, mpg of chevy gasser vs diesel, and cost per mile of gas vs diesel.

[PaulandTammy]

ponie wrote:




I am the dumb one ?

Perhaps you should re-read your posts before asking that question.

[Jumbo_Cranium]

ponie wrote:

“No one has ever gone from diesel back to gas”?

You still can't quote me correctly, the only way you can hold your side of the argument is to make stuff up.