โJul-30-2015 11:14 AM
โJul-31-2015 07:41 PM
โJul-31-2015 07:09 PM
Cummins12V98 wrote:IndyCamp wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Danattherock wrote:
My only concern is which motor will be most reliable in the years to come.
IMO the gasser will be the most reliable in the long run with your type of driving. The emission system alone on the gasser is so much simpler than the diesel. The fuel injection system again is so much simpler on a gasser.
I'm a bit perplexed because you state you will not have a 68tranny and that's basically what's behind the gasser so why ask these questions? :h
And as always take a hard look at the other two manufacturers trucks that are produced on American soil! :W
Good luck and choose wisely...
Ane ask him while you are at it what is the ONLY Diesel offered in the F650/750, oh yea I heard it was the mighty CUMMINS!
Thanks for asking cummins... The 2016 F650/F750 will no longer be equipped with the cummins engine, and now will be equipped with a Ford 6.7 PSD and Ford tranny when choosing the diesel option. This provides better synergy and better overall performance with this pair designed and produced by the same manufacturer.
Plus unlike your RAM the F650/F750 manufacturing has been moved from mexico to the USA.
Thank you very much...
Who cares about any of this?
Does anyone here get paid by any of the manufacturers for waving the flag of a certain brand?
They don't care about you, they just want your money.
I have owned and towed with all of the Big 3, and I would own or tow with any of them tomorrow. In 2015, they all make great trucks that are more than capable of handling most jobs.
Brand wars are incredibly stupid, IMO. Why do Americans feel the need to constantly defend their choice and constantly belittle the other guy's choice? It seems to me that when all of the manufacturers produce good products, consumers win, as we have many more choices.
Aw you just don't understand! This is just a game, we can sit back scratch our......and argue back and forth. You should try it :B
โJul-31-2015 06:55 PM
blofgren wrote:
.... I have absolutely no doubt that I bought the most reliable truck for the long term with the Cummins. It is a true medium duty diesel with a much better high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) than both the Ford and GM. I believe that it is a only a matter of when and not if the HPFP's fail in those trucks and it is a huge repair bill. ....
โJul-31-2015 06:51 PM
โJul-31-2015 05:43 PM
IndyCamp wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Danattherock wrote:
My only concern is which motor will be most reliable in the years to come.
IMO the gasser will be the most reliable in the long run with your type of driving. The emission system alone on the gasser is so much simpler than the diesel. The fuel injection system again is so much simpler on a gasser.
I'm a bit perplexed because you state you will not have a 68tranny and that's basically what's behind the gasser so why ask these questions? :h
And as always take a hard look at the other two manufacturers trucks that are produced on American soil! :W
Good luck and choose wisely...
Ane ask him while you are at it what is the ONLY Diesel offered in the F650/750, oh yea I heard it was the mighty CUMMINS!
Thanks for asking cummins... The 2016 F650/F750 will no longer be equipped with the cummins engine, and now will be equipped with a Ford 6.7 PSD and Ford tranny when choosing the diesel option. This provides better synergy and better overall performance with this pair designed and produced by the same manufacturer.
Plus unlike your RAM the F650/F750 manufacturing has been moved from mexico to the USA.
Thank you very much...
Who cares about any of this?
Does anyone here get paid by any of the manufacturers for waving the flag of a certain brand?
They don't care about you, they just want your money.
I have owned and towed with all of the Big 3, and I would own or tow with any of them tomorrow. In 2015, they all make great trucks that are more than capable of handling most jobs.
Brand wars are incredibly stupid, IMO. Why do Americans feel the need to constantly defend their choice and constantly belittle the other guy's choice? It seems to me that when all of the manufacturers produce good products, consumers win, as we have many more choices.
โJul-31-2015 05:35 PM
45Ricochet wrote:NC Hauler wrote:
Have only owned 3 Dodge Ram truck for a little over 5 years and I like it....I'm in it for the long run
There corrected that for you buddy :B
Time will tell I guess :W
โJul-31-2015 10:31 AM
NC Hauler wrote:
Have only owned 3 Dodge Ram truck for a little over 5 years and I like it....I'm in it for the long run
โJul-31-2015 09:15 AM
โJul-31-2015 08:24 AM
Danattherock wrote:
Nice. For me, wanting Mega cab, it's for two small kids and German shepherd. Plenty of room in center of back floorboard for dog. Kids are 1&3 so by the time they need more legroom the dog will be dead. Sounds harsh, but true. Dogs just 16 weeks old, so hoping to have 10 years or more, at which time kids will be 11&13, with longer legs.
โJul-31-2015 08:19 AM
โJul-31-2015 07:46 AM
Danattherock wrote:
^^^^ Thank you. Sweet truck you have.
Ib516,
Thanks man. Great info.
Dan
โJul-31-2015 07:43 AM
Danattherock wrote:
Would love to see more. With F-250 for example, I heard lots of folks complaining about sag. Made me want F-350. Not sure this condition exist with Dodge 2500 vs 3500, but curious to hear more of course. If I get Hemi, I was leaning towards 2500. Unless sag is an issue. $1k difference between the two trucks.
Dan
โJul-31-2015 07:31 AM
โJul-31-2015 07:12 AM
Danattherock wrote:
I plan on keeping truck till my kids are off to college. They are both currently in diapers. The $11k for the Cummins and AISIN is not a concern. Assuming this combo will provide more reliability over the long haul. I'm just checking with you guys and gals here to be sure my driving habits won't prematurely wear on the diesel. I've never owned a diesel so my insights are limited and my opinion infirm. Thanks for any thoughts.
Dan
โJul-31-2015 07:03 AM
ib516 wrote:IdaD wrote:Hiking Hunter wrote:
Transmission: the 68RFE will do fine for you, save your money. Another note on the transmission - I have the Aisin transmission, and love it dearly, but it has a "4WD LOCK" mode instead of the "4WD AUTO" mode like the 68RFE. The LOCK mode forces all wheels into a hard 4WD and should not be used when the wheels cannot slip some. The AUTO mode can be used when there is only intermittent slippery conditions. In your part of the country, like mine, snow and ice might cover the road, but it would be intermittent. I'm a little apprehensive about using my 4WD "full time" in those conditions if there is ANY dry pavement because of this. Check me on this - I don't think you can get the Aisin with the AUTO mode - I think they are all LOCK mode transmissions. If you can't find a spec sheet showing the available modes on each - look at the 4WD selector knob - it will show either "LOCK" or AUTO" as well as 4WD LOW.
Now, all that being said, the 3500 is a good pick, but consider this: unless you think you might ever get a fifth wheel, why not go with the same engine and transmission in a 2500?. The reasons I suggest this are:
1) the 3500 has a bigger payload rating than the 2500, but if you have a travel trailer that doesn't matter. The tow rating of the 2500 is plenty for your load.
2) The 2500 would ride better for your non-trailer trips because of the stiffer suspension of the 3500.
2500 towing specs
3500 towing specs
Bottom line - 3500 or 2500, 6.7L Diesel, 68RFE tranny
You can't get 4wd Auto in any 2500 or 3500 Ram. All of them with all three transmissions are old fashioned 4wd systems with a locking center transfer case. The only choice in the 4wd systems is whether you want to pull a lever or twist a knob. And based on a lot of years and miles of traveling winter roads, you can run in 4H on intermittent snow and ice on the highway just fine. Just disengage it if you're pulling into a dry paved parking lot or gas station.
I do agree that the coils ride quite a bit nicer, and on a practical level I like that you have separate suspension components that control up and down versus side to side. If a heavy FW is likely in your future a 3500 is the better choice, but if it isn't, the 2500 is a great choice too. Great daily commuter and heavy tow vehicle, with pretty impressive fuel economy to boot.
True. The 4wd auto is not available in anything above a 1500.
I have some "squat" tests comparing the 3500 SRW leaf springs to a 2500 with coils using a 41' 5er if you're interested.