DRW back to SRW

[billtex]

Anybody changed from Dually to SRW?

Why?

Are you happy with your decision?

What do you haul that made you want a dually?

The new generation SRW trucks have payloads of 4000#+...this may be a game changer.

Thx, Bill
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[billtex]

JD5150 wrote:

billtex wrote:

JD5150 wrote:


I do think no matter how big your hard side TC is on a SRW...you will be at a stand still here in Kansas when the wind wants to blow 60 mph gust.
That is another reason I'm looking at pop ups. I don't want to be a sitting duck if the wind wants to blow at 50/60 mph gust. 40 mph might stop you in your tracks with a SRW and a hard side. Lot to think about when using a SRW and a hard side TC

Hi JD, not sure what you are trying to say here as same engine/trans in SRW and DRW?

Yes, those prairie winds do blow-we have taken our current SRW Duramax x-country twice and I know what you mean. But the diesel SRW with hard side did fine with the wind-just uses more fuel in those conditions...

Thx, Bill

Side winds is what I was saying. I've read where others that had a SRW and now a dually....say that the dually handles the side winds way better than a SRW. Dually has the extra tire to handle the load better. Some say they had to wait and ride out the winds with a SRW but with a dually they just keep on going down the road. Depending on how tall the TC is, strong side gust could put a dually waiting it out.

I've seen some of those triple slides sitting 13 foot plus high on a 350/450 dually. Looks like a big wind sail :).

Crazy thing in Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma the winds can blow with 50 to 70 mph gusts for two or three days in a row. When the storms roll in they can kick up to 50 to 70 mph without warning and last for hours

Got it. Thx!

[jimh406]

If the wind is blowing too hard, you probably should plan better or be parked.

[JD5150]

billtex wrote:

JD5150 wrote:


I do think no matter how big your hard side TC is on a SRW...you will be at a stand still here in Kansas when the wind wants to blow 60 mph gust.
That is another reason I'm looking at pop ups. I don't want to be a sitting duck if the wind wants to blow at 50/60 mph gust. 40 mph might stop you in your tracks with a SRW and a hard side. Lot to think about when using a SRW and a hard side TC

Hi JD, not sure what you are trying to say here as same engine/trans in SRW and DRW?

Yes, those prairie winds do blow-we have taken our current SRW Duramax x-country twice and I know what you mean. But the diesel SRW with hard side did fine with the wind-just uses more fuel in those conditions...

Thx, Bill

Side winds is what I was saying. I've read where others that had a SRW and now a dually....say that the dually handles the side winds way better than a SRW. Dually has the extra tire to handle the load better. Some say they had to wait and ride out the winds with a SRW but with a dually they just keep on going down the road. Depending on how tall the TC is, strong side gust could put a dually waiting it out.

I've seen some of those triple slides sitting 13 foot plus high on a 350/450 dually. Looks like a big wind sail :).

Crazy thing in Nebraska/Kansas/Oklahoma the winds can blow with 50 to 70 mph gusts for two or three days in a row. When the storms roll in they can kick up to 50 to 70 mph without warning and last for hours

[billtex]

JD5150 wrote:


I do think no matter how big your hard side TC is on a SRW...you will be at a stand still here in Kansas when the wind wants to blow 60 mph gust.
That is another reason I'm looking at pop ups. I don't want to be a sitting duck if the wind wants to blow at 50/60 mph gust. 40 mph might stop you in your tracks with a SRW and a hard side. Lot to think about when using a SRW and a hard side TC

Hi JD, not sure what you are trying to say here as same engine/trans in SRW and DRW?

Yes, those prairie winds do blow-we have taken our current SRW Duramax x-country twice and I know what you mean. But the diesel SRW with hard side did fine with the wind-just uses more fuel in those conditions...

Thx, Bill

[otrfun]

billtex wrote:
This is the OP. Appreciate if we could stop handing out troll house cookies and get back on topic.

Anyone running one of the new SRW 1 tons with 4000#+ payload?

Would love some input based on real world experience.

Thx, bill

'16 Ram 3500 SRW Cummins (4k payload) hauling a '19 Northern Lite 8-11. I'm near the 7K RAWR with the camper loaded (almost 4k). When we first purchased the camper, we drove home (1400 mi.) with just Timbrens. Handled fine. There was a slight amount of single-motion sway with each high wind gust--totally expected. Just to maximize safety and handling, we elected to replace the OEM tires with Michelin 295/70/18's (4080 lbs.) to get an additional 800 lbs. of tire capacity on each axle. We replaced the Timbrens with Air Lift 5k air bags (camper was heavier on one-side). Also installed a Roadmaster sway-bar and lower stabil-loads. Can't say any one mod all-by-itself made any dramatic improvement, but as a whole it has made the truck even more fun to drive with the camper on-board. Very little steering correction necessary---even in 25-30 mph side-winds (and gusts over 50 mph). No complaints---fun to drive.

[JD5150]

I think the newer SRW trucks like the F350 will do better with a hard side TC without a basement or 7.5 wide camper like a NorthStar Igloo, Capri Retreat, Bundutec Bunduvry can get it 7 or 7.5 foot wide.

Hard side without a basement your outside sidewall is around 10.5/10.8 feet high sitting on the truck. Be sitting at 11 foot or just over that with an AC on the roof.

I do think no matter how big your hard side TC is on a SRW...you will be at a stand still here in Kansas when the wind wants to blow 60 mph gust.
That is another reason I'm looking at pop ups. I don't want to be a sitting duck if the wind wants to blow at 50/60 mph gust. 40 mph might stop you in your tracks with a SRW and a hard side. Lot to think about when using a SRW and a hard side TC

[jimh406]

brholt wrote:
The SRW's payload may be approaching 4,000 pounds but my 2013 DRW's payload is over 6,000 pounds and I use almost every pound of that payload.

Actually over 4k and have been with Fords since 2005 at least. Of course, SRWs won’t work for everyone.

[EfonFred]

5 years hauling a NL 811 on a 2500 Dodge SRW, 6 months hauling an Adventurer 86SBS on a Ram 3500 DRW. For the way we use our truck, no, won’t consider going back. The stability difference in our newer rig is exceptionally noted by the wife (& me). Of course I’m comparing an 8 year old truck to a 18 year old truck but the ride is so much nicer and all the new old truck has is air bags.

[brholt]

The SRW's payload may be approaching 4,000 pounds but my 2013 DRW's payload is over 6,000 pounds and I use almost every pound of that payload.

[S_Davis]

I am hauling +- 3000 lb commercial cap on a 2019 2500HD CCLB un-modified at this point. It drives like a Cadillac, can't really tell it is there. It does not have the height of a truck camper so that would make a difference in sway probably. I am right at the limit on tires, but I have 19.5s to put on it when I wear out the factory tires or when I add an in bed auxiliary fuel tank. I had this cap on a 2013 2500HD CCSB and added 3500lb helper springs, air bags and upgraded shocks and it didn't handle as well as the 2019 un-modified.

[Kayteg1]

Looks like 5 pages later you still did not get your answer.
You are right that new SRW improved, but so did DRW and so did TC.
When I was getting my new DRW 3 years ago, all those guys driving older trucks were telling me I will need to modify my suspension to carry 12' camper. The new truck proved them wrong. Wish you the same, but being technical guy, I always play with numbers.
Even some troll will try to twist the numbers -math is math and if you do yours, you will know what you are standing on.

[billtex]

Thanks All. I never wanted to do the 19.5 wheel setup so I went with GM steelies and the 3950# rated KO 2’s. This gave me the axle capacity I needed. Running supersprings also. I always thought going to a dually would be the best solution and I am sure it is. But the new SRW sure have improved.

Wish I could test drive both with the TC on-now that would be cool!

Happy New Year to All!

[JD5150]

Back in 2010 I had a 2003, 2500hd, Chevy Duramax, short bed. Had a 2010 Palomino 910rs with a slide on it. I had the 19.5 tires, Vision rims, Bigwig sway bar, Super Springs and Ride Rite air bags. It handled it fine but the CG was behind the rear axle by an inch and it did lift the front a little. Sold it all a long time ago :).

I went to visit my brother and as soon as he seen it he says, you need a dually dude. :B

[jimh406]

billtex wrote:
Anyone running one of the new SRW 1 tons with 4000#+ payload?

Buzzcut1, Bedlam, and I all ran SRWs with 4000+ payloads that were later hauled by DRWs. My 2006 was rated over 4000. Chev/GM and Ram started rating their higher later than 2006.

In my case, it meant I carried less (stuff) and water in the SRW version. I made the same mods to my DRW F450 except I used Bilsteins instead of Rancho 9000s. I eventually went to 19.5s on the SRW. If I had it to do over, I’d go 18s with 4080 Toyo tires. At least, I think they are Toyo that go that high.

DW enjoys driving the DRW much better. The F450 also is a CC instead of SC. The SRW was much easier to drive in town. The F450 stops tremendously faster but also gets a lot worse MPG.

From time to time, I’ve thought about switching back. The main reason I don’t is cost, and I rarely drive the DRW without a TC any more since I’m retired.