Dually life? What about Ford 6.2L

[agesilaus]

As my search for a replacement for my totaled F350 I see a number of RAM diesel 3500 duallys (2017) showing up at a very good price. One in particular a Laredo at 40K with all sorts of options.
I've never driven a drw before and it seems overkill for our 9K Trailer.
Are they that much harder to drive and park? What about mileage? Better than a gasser anyway I assume. We'll look at it Tuesday probably.
Lots of gas 6.2L around at a good price. And thoughts on that engine from owners?

[BobsYourUncle]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
One of my favorite ways to park my "SEXY BIG HIP" DRW.

Lol!! :B Done that myself many times!

Nice looking truck BTW.:)

[Cummins12V98]

One of my favorite ways to park my "SEXY BIG HIP" DRW.

[rhagfo]

agesilaus wrote:
As my search for a replacement for my totaled F350 I see a number of RAM diesel 3500 duallys (2017) showing up at a very good price. One in particular a Laredo at 40K with all sorts of options.
I've never driven a drw before and it seems overkill for our 9K Trailer.
Are they that much harder to drive and park? What about mileage? Better than a gasser anyway I assume. We'll look at it Tuesday probably.
Lots of gas 6.2L around at a good price. And thoughts on that engine from owners?

I agree with Ron, for a 9k TT a DRW is overkill, but if you are looking at making the transition from a TT to a 5th wheel of larger size a DRW USA great tow and daily driver.
Getting over about 10k I would start looking at diesel.

There are lots of those that will tell you a DRW is to large to daily drive, yet they have never driven one more than once! They see them a just to large and hard to turn.

Listen to those who drive DRW on a daily basis, you learn to back into parking spots, even with SRW this is a safer option, as you have clear view when leaving.

[deltabravo]

IdaD wrote:
The only realistic scenario in which I ever see buying a DRW would be if we someday decided to buy a pretty large truck camper

This is exactly why I have a dually.

[bucky]

There will be a long wait for enough CP3s to complete that recall. Every owner of the Dodge/Ram brand has drug their feet on recalls to spread out the cost. My source? 44 years of experience in the parts and service field. I dealt with AMC/Chrysler/Daimler/FiaT recalls for many of those years. They screwed the owners on the time lapse, and they screwed the dealers on the pricing of the repair.
In the meantime owners are driving potential time bombs. Do you really want to be far from home when it explodes.
Hopefully Stellantis will be better at this. I retired before that merger, I can't speak for them.

[Grit_dog]

agesilaus wrote:
OK here is the situation as of this afternoon:
Went to a RAM and a Ford dealer, neither had anything at a reasonable price. The RAM guy had a 2017 diesel in the lot at the upper end of our range. The bed was rusty, it was the low end trim model, the door groaned and squealed as it was opened. And when you turned the truck on the first thing you see is the "REPLACE FUEL FILTER". So these people were too lazy to oil the door hinges and service the filters on a $47000 sale. Does not inspire confidence.
The Ford guy just did not have anything except a gasser priced as high as the diesels
Went to the "Truck Spot" the owner came out, we told him our parameters and he proceeded to show us 6 or 8 trucks. All spotless.

Found one 2018 RAM 2500,4WD shortbed, not sure what trim level but has backup camera and such. Color dark red, not my fav but heck not a killer either. $39K, 43K out the door! As is but so were the dealer models.
Hopefully the insurance company will come thru Wednesday, otherwise we will put a deposit down. Off to the CU in the morning. The one potential problem is 204K on the clock. But with a diesel I'm not worried but the CU may not like it.
Assuming we get it I'll run it down to the RAM dealer for filter/fluid changes and to get them to check it out. Florida has I think a 72hr 'change your mind law' that says you can back out of a contract in that period of time. Not sure if it apples to used trucks tho.
It has a grill guard/winch bumper and front receiver. No winch but that could be added. Side steps too. Cloth seats but that is minimal concern.
We need a topper but the dark red color is problem. Maybe get a white one and have it painted.
Things are looking up. If the CU rejects based on odometer he had several under 200K

OMG, $43k for a 200k mile 4th gen? I wouldn’t give that much for a pristine Limited mega Dooley with those miles.
If you’re going to do that deal, I’ll sell you ours for $50k. 93k miles and it’ll never have an emissions issue. And I know the history of the truck since it was new.
He!!, I’ll fill out the gift receipt so you don’t have to pay sales tax and buy you a plane ticket to come get it!
Or we will be headed to FL in a few weeks. Delivery option?

Barring paying me too much money instead of someone else, honestly, regardless of your insurance settlement, if this is something you have to get a loan on, go find a nice Grampa owned mid 2000s GM 6.0 or Ford V10 and drive the he!! out of it for a year or 3, however long it takes for the economy to crash and has to get to $7 a gal and then buy a nice diesel for a normal price.
I’m appalled that 200k miles on an average truck = over $40k but sure as heck wouldn’t overpay if it was more than chump change to me.

[Grit_dog]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"2019-20 model Ram CTD switched to the Bosch 4.2 lift pump. Switched back to the CP3 model in 2021 and on. Avoid those year model diesels if you ultimately go that way."

WHY avoid those two years? RAM is replacing every single injection pump at ZERO cost on those two years.

Why? Because you have to take a number and get in (a long) line….
Unless, of course, if it cuts loose and plays shrapnel bomb on your engine. In which case you get bumped up to the end of the already broken trucks backorder line!

[blofgren]

IdaD wrote:
The only realistic scenario in which I ever see buying a DRW would be if we someday decided to buy a pretty large truck camper. A SRW HD would be enough truck for any type of trailer I'd ever want to own. If you don't really need the extra rear axle capacity, a SRW truck is better in every other respect.

Except looks! :B

[Cummins12V98]

"2019-20 model Ram CTD switched to the Bosch 4.2 lift pump. Switched back to the CP3 model in 2021 and on. Avoid those year model diesels if you ultimately go that way."

WHY avoid those two years? RAM is replacing every single injection pump at ZERO cost on those two years.

[rhagfo]

patperry2766 wrote:
2019-20 model Ram CTD switched to the Bosch 4.2 lift pump. Switched back to the CP3 model in 2021 and on. Avoid those year model diesels if you ultimately go that way.
I think right now, the Ford 7.3 is the gas engine to be looking for, andIuse to be a Ford guy till I switched to a CTD

Don’t worry about buying a 2019/20 Ram CTD with the Bosch 4.2. Ram has issued a recall on those years and replacing the Bosch 4.2 with a Bosch 3 HPFP. You will be covered as the new registered owner.

[patperry2766]

2019-20 model Ram CTD switched to the Bosch 4.2 lift pump. Switched back to the CP3 model in 2021 and on. Avoid those year model diesels if you ultimately go that way.
I think right now, the Ford 7.3 is the gas engine to be looking for, and I use to be a Ford guy till I switched to a CTD

[agesilaus]

OK here is the situation as of this afternoon:
Went to a RAM and a Ford dealer, neither had anything at a reasonable price. The RAM guy had a 2017 diesel in the lot at the upper end of our range. The bed was rusty, it was the low end trim model, the door groaned and squealed as it was opened. And when you turned the truck on the first thing you see is the "REPLACE FUEL FILTER". So these people were too lazy to oil the door hinges and service the filters on a $47000 sale. Does not inspire confidence.
The Ford guy just did not have anything except a gasser priced as high as the diesels
Went to the "Truck Spot" the owner came out, we told him our parameters and he proceeded to show us 6 or 8 trucks. All spotless.

Found one 2018 RAM 2500,4WD shortbed, not sure what trim level but has backup camera and such. Color dark red, not my fav but heck not a killer either. $39K, 43K out the door! As is but so were the dealer models.
Hopefully the insurance company will come thru Wednesday, otherwise we will put a deposit down. Off to the CU in the morning. The one potential problem is 204K on the clock. But with a diesel I'm not worried but the CU may not like it.
Assuming we get it I'll run it down to the RAM dealer for filter/fluid changes and to get them to check it out. Florida has I think a 72hr 'change your mind law' that says you can back out of a contract in that period of time. Not sure if it apples to used trucks tho.
It has a grill guard/winch bumper and front receiver. No winch but that could be added. Side steps too. Cloth seats but that is minimal concern.
We need a topper but the dark red color is problem. Maybe get a white one and have it painted.
Things are looking up. If the CU rejects based on odometer he had several under 200K

[Fordlover]

agesilaus wrote:
As my search for a replacement for my totaled F350 I see a number of RAM diesel 3500 duallys (2017) showing up at a very good price. One in particular a Laredo at 40K with all sorts of options.
I've never driven a drw before and it seems overkill for our 9K Trailer.
Are they that much harder to drive and park? What about mileage? Better than a gasser anyway I assume. We'll look at it Tuesday probably.
Lots of gas 6.2L around at a good price. And thoughts on that engine from owners?

Can't comment on the DRW or Ram, but I'm still very pleased with our 6.2 engine. Lugs our RV just fine and requires no DEF. Ours is still a baby with 21K miles but has taken us to Colorado at 10K feet, Florida, and in a week to the Ozarks. Does exactly what I expected and no regret.

[IdaD]

The only realistic scenario in which I ever see buying a DRW would be if we someday decided to buy a pretty large truck camper. A SRW HD would be enough truck for any type of trailer I'd ever want to own. If you don't really need the extra rear axle capacity, a SRW truck is better in every other respect.