EVIC symbols? Bad fuel or coincidentally something else?

[Dano1955]

On my Ram 2500 6.7 Diesel SLT I have a symbol on the EVIC that I've never seen, and some weird things started happening today.

Drove to Costco in Parker from littleton (about 15 miles) to pick up a few things. When I left I had half a take so decided to top off. Filled her up and took off and withing a couple of miles the truck started to stutter?? shudder?? sort of when accelerating. I drove around awhile and noticed it does it about 1500-1600 rpm, whether I'm controlling the pedal or on cruise control.

There were no warning indicators on the EVIC at first, then after about another 30 miles I noticed one. It looks like a snap ring, open at the bottom with what appears to be a piston looking thing inside from about 10 o'clock to 4 o'clock, the head of the piston pointing to 4 o'clock. The truck also doesn't seem to accelerate as quick and smoothly as before.

Unable to find info on what that indicator is on-line anywhere. Even some of the Ram cummins diesel forums Could it be for the injectors? I bought the truck 3 months ago with just over 57K miles and now has just over 60K, so they would still be under original warranty I would think. Even if not I have the extended extra warranty 5 or 50000 from date of purchase so should be able to get it fixed on their dime.

Anyone have any ideas on what this could be? Could it be bad fuel? Filled up at a station in parker that I've used before with no problems. Or is it something else that just occurred coincidentally?

My first diesel and I was loving it, but now don't know where to look for information on possible issues.

Any thought or info is appreciated.

[DirtyOil]

larry barnhart wrote:
I do the smell and look test as I start to fill. Better than ending up on the road waiting for a tow truck with a 35 ft alpenlite . Done that once on I-10.
chevman

As to OP stated it was a mistake by the fuel delivery guy who dumped gas into the diesel storage tank. Depending on the amount of diesel that existed in the tank before the gas dumped into it, your most likely not going to smell the gas. Half a tank of "unknown" percentage of diesel/gasoline mix added to half a tank of diesel, may be small enough not to cause serious issues. At least, it would play havoc on the sensors (reason for the EVIC symbol and "limp mode") like O2 sensors, SCR filter and/or DPF filter. More gasoline would cause more "rattle" form the engine - if OP noticed more noise - park truck and get it flushed. Higher concentration will destroy a engine fast.
Best thing the OP can do is park the truck and have it towed to dealer for a fuel system flush/clean.

[larry_barnhart]

I do the smell and look test as I start to fill. Better than ending up on the road waiting for a tow truck with a 35 ft alpenlite . Done that once on I-10.
chevman

[45Ricochet]

Dano1955 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
I would take it for a check up at the local Cummins or Ram dealer. Explain what happen. If that ever happens again park it and drain it don't drive it :W
The delivery company has insurance for this kind of mistake by a driver.
Then there is always the "sniff test" before you pump :B
Good Luck

If I have to go around sniffing nozzles at every gas station I'm going back to gas, LOL

Your engine your money, but $10k, $15k or $20k whatever your engine costs a little whiff will spot gasoline every time.
Guess I better not mention the "match test" :W
Notice the winks and big smiles.
Moral of story, another reason to buy new vehicles 😛

[FishOnOne]

blofgren wrote:
Glad to hear the issue is resolved. Be very happy that you don't have a truck with a CP4 fuel pump because it would be a whole different scenario! 😉

Not necessarily... IB516 reported a while back that his buddy pumped gas in his GM Duramax and the truck was sputtering till he found out what had happened.

I can assure the OP that gas will cause scarring of the internals on the CP3 and long term durability will be reduced. The senerio you have to ask yourself do I want the gas station to pay the bill now or do I pay it later.

[Dano1955]

IDoMyOwnStunts wrote:
Still not good even though he was less than a 50/50 mixture. Sounds like they are going to have a lot of claims to pay, especially to the owners of those trucks with sensitive fuel pumps. I'd still have the truck gone through just to make sure no damage was done and send them the bill.

Already scheduled. Spoke to the owner (franchisee)and he contacted dealers close to anyone who called about it and set up the appointments for all, personally.

Thats service.

[IDoMyOwnStunts]

Still not good even though he was less than a 50/50 mixture. Sounds like they are going to have a lot of claims to pay, especially to the owners of those trucks with sensitive fuel pumps. I'd still have the truck gone through just to make sure no damage was done and send them the bill.

[Dano1955]

45Ricochet wrote:
I would take it for a check up at the local Cummins or Ram dealer. Explain what happen. If that ever happens again park it and drain it don't drive it :W
The delivery company has insurance for this kind of mistake by a driver.
Then there is always the "sniff test" before you pump :B
Good Luck

If I have to go around sniffing nozzles at every gas station I'm going back to gas, LOL

[Dano1955]

Beaker wrote:

I put diesel in it. Green button right?

You may get in trouble looking for green. Doesn't always work that way.

That was a joke see the little smiley?

[Beaker]

I put diesel in it. Green button right?

You may get in trouble looking for green. Doesn't always work that way.

[45Ricochet]

I would take it for a check up at the local Cummins or Ram dealer. Explain what happen. If that ever happens again park it and drain it don't drive it :W
The delivery company has insurance for this kind of mistake by a driver.
Then there is always the "sniff test" before you pump :B
Good Luck

[Dano1955]

otrfun wrote:
If I understand the OP's post, he had a half-tank of diesel and filled up the remainder of his tank with gas. Wow, you can run a 50/50 mixture of diesel and gas and not damage the engine??

Nope, you do NOT understand my post. In case you don't want to go back to read my original and update....

Had half a tank. Stopped to top off with DIESEL. Started having the problem. Ran out over half the tank today, refilled at different station, problem went away. Called original station where I got the DIESEL yesterday and they informed me that their suppliers driver had put premium gas into their DIESEL storage tank and it caused the same problem for others who also called. They were pumping out their storage tank and had a tanker on the way to refill it with DIESEL.

[otrfun]

Grit dog wrote:

otrfun wrote:
If I understand the OP's post, he had a half-tank of diesel and filled up the remainder of his tank with gas. Wow, you can run a 50/50 mixture of diesel and gas and not damage the engine??

50/50 wont get you far, like out the driveway and about 2 blocks, lol. The storage tank had to have been about 50/50 as well.

Ok, gotcha. Good point.

[Grit_dog]

otrfun wrote:
If I understand the OP's post, he had a half-tank of diesel and filled up the remainder of his tank with gas. Wow, you can run a 50/50 mixture of diesel and gas and not damage the engine??

50/50 wont get you far, like out the driveway and about 2 blocks, lol. The storage tank had to have been about 50/50 as well.

[Grit_dog]

Holy carp, you got lucky!
If not for the dilution of topping off the storage tank that already had diesel in it and topping off your rig at half a tank, your post would have said something like "Filled up tank w diesel, truck died, towed to dealer, they want $10k to fix it!"

Even still, I'd take your truck in and pay for a complete diagnostic test. Now.
The fact that you only had a small percentage of gas (or it wouldn't have run, much less up I70 n back)is reassuring, but it could have damaged the injection pump, internal engine damage and damage to the emissions system in the exhaust.

Man I'd almost be tempted to put some more gas in er and make sure it gets fixed properly by the station, wink wink. You most definitely took some life span off or some major components. This is a tough situation.
Also talk to your insurance company, IMO, as this is simply comprehensive case and let them subrogate any issues back to the fuel station. I think that will formalize your record of this event if you have future issues.