F150 EcoBoost with Max payload package Super Crew

[evanrem]

I'm looking for input from anyone who has the above truck and what size trailer they are towing with it and how they like it along with the MPG when not towing. I cant find them anywhere and heard they are not starting production on them again until 2016.
Payload is 2650
Tow is 11,500
Thanks

[BStrummin]

Haven't read this whole thread but I'm on my 2nd Ecoboost F150 after the first one was totaled. They pull great especially in the mountains. The tow-haul mode on the trans is very impressive too, as is the ability to lockout upper gears.

One word of advice - if you are at all interested in the big towing mirrors they've changed the packages on the 15+ and now you HAVE to order them separately - they are no longer included in the max tow. And they are EXPENSIVE to add after the fact - like they could be several thousand dollars depending on model and options. Get them for $275 as an option. This has been the only problem on my 15. We had it shipped over from another dealer and we thought it had them only to find out it didn't. I didn't think it was a big deal and went ahead and took the truck thinking I could easily do it later. A bunch of us on an F150 forum are still trying to figure out which one goes with which truck as there are something like 9 different mirrors.

[DarbyWalters]

fireman41 wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:

georgefarl1945 wrote:
I have 2015 3.5 ecoboost. XLT SC. I pull a 30Ft Dutchmen with wet weight of 7200#. I Get 9.5 mpg when towing. I get 17.5 daily driving

Hmm.. that empty mileage is pretty pitiful.. My 2013 F250 XLT Super cab with 6.2 weighs in about 1000 lbs heavier and gets me 15.1-15.3 combo city and highway empty and 10.1-10.5 towing 7K lbs of trailer.. Not to mention my available cargo is 3415 lbs to boot!

To add insult to injury didn't cost as much as a F150 ecoboost with max payload either :B

That's pretty good. I uaslly avarge 13.8 with trips getting close to 15 and towing my Jayco 26bh I'll get 8.5.

But I like the sound my engine makes when I put the skinny pedal down 🙂

Hummm...so you get ~15% less mpg without towing and ~19% better when towing. Not knowing all the factors (driving style, speeds, terrain, etc), I would say that for most people they tow far fewer miles than normal unloaded driving. "Insult to Injury"...why bother with either? He has an Ecoboost and wanted some useful information...not "I 2 I" 😉

[DarbyWalters]

I have a 2012 SuperCrew EB 4x4 with the 3.73 rear end. Pulls my Jayco White Hawk 29REKS with no problem. It is lifted with 34.25" so the effective rear end ratio is ~3.50 and it does great. The trailer loaded is about 7300# and the truck comes in at 6000#. I am right at the limit of payload but no issues with E Rated Tires and a "good" WDH. As for mileage...8.5 towing.

[MitchF150]

IdaD wrote:

TomG2 wrote:
I suggest that those who think that all pickups are created equal get out of their leather seats and crawl under one some time. The differences between the various models is more than one might think. By now, we all have heard how the ecoboost can pull 10,000-12,000 with the proper hitch, but towing it well might be another matter.

No kidding. For a good laugh take a look at the 8.8" rear axle on most F150s sometime and compare it to the 11.5" rear axles on a HD truck. An Ecoboost makes good power but there's no way I'd want to approach those trailer weights with a half ton. Not with my family on board.

The EcoBoost and 5.0L F150's get a 9.75" rear end. So did the old 5.4's from days gone by.. Yes, it's still a semi floater... So, I guess it's still a POS?? 😉

Mitch

[Goldstar225]

If the OP is still hanging around....

I have a 2014 F-150 ecoboost 4X4 supercrew with max tow package. I tow a 35' 9,000# wet travel trailer using an equal-I-zer hitch. My tongue weight runs 1080#. Despite towing in some 30-40 MPH cross winds I have experienced no sway.

Towing in flat areas or moderate hills I get 9-10 MPG. I have no trouble maintain 55 MPH on 5 degree hills.

My mixed city/highway mileage averages 16.5 MPG

70 MPH interstate nets me 19 MPG while traveling secondary roads at 55-60 will turn 21-22 MPG.

[Teamfour]

See my sig. I get about 9.5 mpg towing in the hills/mountains around here.

[Samsonsworld]

Live and learn. After a little reading, they do have what they call a 8.8HD for 2015 and a 9.75". You can get the 2.7l with both axles. I did not see it as an option with the 3.5L. I'm guessing if you have a tow package, you get the 9.75".

And at least prior to 2015, every 4x4 or 2wd ecoboost had the 9.75".

[IdaD]

Samsonsworld wrote:

IdaD wrote:
No kidding. For a good laugh take a look at the 8.8" rear axle on most F150s sometime and compare it to the 11.5" rear axles on a HD truck. An Ecoboost makes good power but there's no way I'd want to approach those trailer weights with a half ton. Not with my family on board.

Not one 3.5L ecoboost has an 8.8" axle. Doesn't exist.

Are you sure about that? You narrowed your statement down so obviously the 2.7 Ecoboost comes with the 8.8. I thought the 9.75 came on HD Payload equipped trucks, which are relatively few and far between.

[itguy08]

Pooter wrote:
ST tires are only rated to 65MPH.

Not all - CHEK YOUR TIRES. Our WestLakes are rated to 75 - says so right on the sidewall. I believe some Carlisles are rated up to 90.

[Pooter]

wing_zealot wrote:

Pooter wrote:

bid_time wrote:
You're a smart man larry, you knew you were being baited and went for it anyways. You don't get to claim some moral high ground now. "two-faced"? kettle meet pot.

The manufacturer's have designed the truck and they have published ratings to be used for towing (I'd be willing to bet they also publish a safe speed for towing). And towing at 100% of those numbers is not "playing roulette" with lives. Sorry, your "gleaned information" doesn't trump the manufacturer's collective knowledge, testing, and designing.

I feel it a little naive to think manufacturer's published ratings are not slanted by the marketing department. If they want to sell trucks they have to be competitive in a whole bunch of category's, including MSRP and fuel economy.
If hitting minimums makes you happy , or justifies your arguments power on, who am I to argue . I have owned a 2011 F-150 and now a 2015 F250. The experience is notably different. Although the F 150 was adequate , the F 250 is relaxing. I tow 10000 miles a year for work plus a 5500 loaded TT. The relaxed towing is worth the $600.00 annual fuel penalty. As far as your "Russian Roulette" comment, I see it daily with the "Adequate" EB F-150 owners blowing by me at 70-75 MPH pulling 28+" trailers on ST tires. Just because they can , does not mean they should.

So do you think your "adequate" with an F250 pulling a 28' trailer on ST tires at 70 - 75? Or is that another case of just because you can, doesn't mean you should?

Actually, none of that has anything to do with towing within a vehicles ratings no matter what size vehicle we are talking about. That is a different discussion. If you're going to tow at 75, you better have both vehicles equipped for the experience.

ST tires are only rated to 65MPH.

[joshuajim]

My'13 Eco, max tow, HD payload gets 7 to 9 towing 8,000# and 14 to 15 empty. Now I live at 3,500MSL and most towing is at or above that elevation in mountanous areas. I've never had a need for more power and down hills in the Sierra's have not been the slightest problem.

Now as far as those who say their 3/4 ton is 1,000% better, come on, you just threw down $50K to upgrade and it is marginally better, Ya gonna admit that? :B

[Flapper]

Well, this thread has devolved into the usual "how big a truck" debate, but to report to the OP my own specifics:

2012 Crew Eco, Max tow, Max pay (3.73 gears). Just returned from a 250 mile each way trip requiring towing the 8,300 lb fifth, return empty, then tow the 3,500 lb boat. All highway - combo of speed limits of 70 mph, 60-65, and small town 35 mph stretches. Yes, did the route 6 times in two weeks!

Non-towing: 20.5 mpg one way, 21.8 the other.
Pulling boat: 17.2 one way, 16.8 the other.
Pulling Fifth: 8.8 one way, 9.1 the other.

As daily driver, non-towing, around town, summer average 16.5, winter about 14.5

With fifth wheel:
Trip Minn. to Maine and back, 11.5 overall
Minn. to Calif, Oregon and back, 10.3 overall.
Minn. to Mobile, AL and back - 10.1 overall.

When towing the fifth, wind makes the biggest difference by far. Was bucking 20 mph winds both times on the latest trips reported above (why are they headwinds going both ways???)

Ford notes, and my experimenting agrees, that you can see up to a 10% improvement in mileage by using premium, which I usually do when towing, except for this last round of trips, as the price difference between regular and premium was far more than 10%, and I didn't really care about getting the additional range before refueling.

On the Mobile trip, a cracked connector disabled the turbos so yes, suddenly it became very hard to tow the fifth with what became a small V6! But otherwise, all has been fine. Have done many 6%+ grades with the fifth up and down for long distances with no issues. Can pass anyone I want, going up, if I want. Engine braking going down in tow mode worked well (but I cannot compare to a bigger engine, so can't say if it is better or worse).

[wing_zealot]

Pooter wrote:

bid_time wrote:
You're a smart man larry, you knew you were being baited and went for it anyways. You don't get to claim some moral high ground now. "two-faced"? kettle meet pot.

The manufacturer's have designed the truck and they have published ratings to be used for towing (I'd be willing to bet they also publish a safe speed for towing). And towing at 100% of those numbers is not "playing roulette" with lives. Sorry, your "gleaned information" doesn't trump the manufacturer's collective knowledge, testing, and designing.

I feel it a little naive to think manufacturer's published ratings are not slanted by the marketing department. If they want to sell trucks they have to be competitive in a whole bunch of category's, including MSRP and fuel economy.
If hitting minimums makes you happy , or justifies your arguments power on, who am I to argue . I have owned a 2011 F-150 and now a 2015 F250. The experience is notably different. Although the F 150 was adequate , the F 250 is relaxing. I tow 10000 miles a year for work plus a 5500 loaded TT. The relaxed towing is worth the $600.00 annual fuel penalty. As far as your "Russian Roulette" comment, I see it daily with the "Adequate" EB F-150 owners blowing by me at 70-75 MPH pulling 28+" trailers on ST tires. Just because they can , does not mean they should.

So do you think your "adequate" with an F250 pulling a 28' trailer on ST tires at 70 - 75? Or is that another case of just because you can, doesn't mean you should?

Actually, none of that has anything to do with towing within a vehicles ratings no matter what size vehicle we are talking about. That is a different discussion. If you're going to tow at 75, you better have both vehicles equipped for the experience.

[Samsonsworld]

IdaD wrote:
No kidding. For a good laugh take a look at the 8.8" rear axle on most F150s sometime and compare it to the 11.5" rear axles on a HD truck. An Ecoboost makes good power but there's no way I'd want to approach those trailer weights with a half ton. Not with my family on board.

Not one 3.5L ecoboost has an 8.8" axle. Doesn't exist.