F250 Payload

[HikeN2Mts]

Looking at 2016 F250 XLT crew cab short bed trucks,gas model shows 2755 payload on door and diesel shows 2122 lbs with a option on it called camper pkg- upgraded front & rear springs and stabilizer bar. Is 2122 lbs the average for most F250 what options do you have if your is above that? The F350 had 3203 lbs payload, just thought 250 would be a little more with diesel,

[Passin_Thru]

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[Powerdude]

The 6.7 Diesel engine trucks weigh about 600 lbs more than the 6.2 L gas, with most of that being the engine.

So, you will have a reduced payload with the diesel, in either F250 or F350 form.

My 2016 F250 4x4 shortbed crewcab gas payload is at 2749 lbs, with a 3.73 axle ratio. With the camper package, it's effectively an F350, but I can fit in in the garage since it's not as tall (only 2" blocks vs. 4" blocks)

If they wife likes a lot of amenities for full-timing, you will probably be limited to some of the lighter 5th wheels with the gas motor, even if you got the 4.3 axle ratio, which is rated to pull 15,000 lbs.

I probably would not pull over 10-11k with the gasser, if you were planning on pulling some serious mountain passes, but you can do it.

Diesel is of course more expensive, as it is an $8k+ option, and being a higher performing engine, more maintenance (people argue this, but higher specs=higher maintenance in my book).

You can't have enough truck, seems to sum up the wisdom around here. Take it for what it's worth. It's YOUR wallet. You can probably find some smoking deals on the 2016's. You're talking 9-12k off or more, if you are willing to do a little compromising. Everything in life is a compromise, more or less.

[badercubed]

Sticker from my 2015 XLT Crew Cab Gasser

[Retired_JSO]

My 2016 gas XLT crew FX4 10,000 GVW shows 2790 payload.

[Bedlam]

As posted by others, the F250 has a low GVWR because it is a Class 2b vehicle. The RAWR is artificially low because of the 17" rims and tires. Get the camper package with 18" wheels and you have the F350 without the papers. My F250 was comfortable at 11,500 lbs running 7000 lbs on the rear axle with this configuration.

[SoCalDesertRid1]

Forget about the F250 if you want a crew cab 4x4 diesel. The payload is all used up by the crew cab, the 4wd and diesel.

Get the F350 instead.

[MFL]

The 250 you looked at has the camper package, which means it is really a 350 with the class 2 10,000 lb GVWR. It will have the same capability as the 11,500 lb GVWR class 3 350.

If you are going to buy new, you may as well get the higher sticker rated 350, instead of ignoring the lower class 2 stickers. Even though the axles and tires/wheels are the same with the 250 camper pkg, the RAWR is lower rated also.

Jerry

[Gdetrailer]

HikeN2Mts wrote:
Thank everyone for comments, same old problem, I like to keep travel trailer below 30 feet, wife likes 30ft- 5th wheel. Price difference not too bad between 250 and 350. I prefer gas only because never owned diesel, but doing a lot of towing in mts my 150 is lacking that heavier truck body and extra payload cushion with our travel trailer.

We are retired and just got back from 4 month trip, thinking of going full time when house sells.

Ron

Unless you REALLY "need" the extra seating space and full four doors of a Crew cab, perhaps consider a Super cab..

Super Cab has "jump" seats and hidden rear doors (the rear doors can only opened when the front doors are opened). So it is possible to haul adults in the rear seats but for long trips those seats can get uncomfortable..

So if it is just you and spouse I can't see much of a reason to buy a full four door Crew Cab.

Super cab would weigh less than a Crew cab which may allow you to stay with a F250.

After growing up with regular cabs trucks I do find the extra space of a Super Cab is nice while staying within the length that fits in my garage..

[HikeN2Mts]

Thank everyone for comments, same old problem, I like to keep travel trailer below 30 feet, wife likes 30ft- 5th wheel. Price difference not too bad between 250 and 350. I prefer gas only because never owned diesel, but doing a lot of towing in mts my 150 is lacking that heavier truck body and extra payload cushion with our travel trailer.

We are retired and just got back from 4 month trip, thinking of going full time when house sells.

Ron

[Gdetrailer]

HikeN2Mts wrote:
Looking at 2016 F250 XLT crew cab short bed trucks,gas model shows 2755 payload on door and diesel shows 2122 lbs with a option on it called camper pkg- upgraded front & rear springs and stabilizer bar. Is 2122 lbs the average for most F250 what options do you have if your is above that? The F350 had 3203 lbs payload, just thought 250 would be a little more with diesel,

F250 is "capped" at 10,000 lbs GVWR.

Your cargo "capacity" is derived by subtracting the "curb" (IE empty) weight from the GVWR. On the new yellow stickers FUEL AND 150 lbs for the driver are subtracted from the leftover cargo..

A XL regular cab 4x2 is the "base" model and has the lowest curb weight but has the highest payload.

Adding 4x4, XLT, Crew cab to the mix because of the extra weight added to the curb weight you will see much less cargo capacity, add in the Diesel engine it is even less.

In my case I have a 2013 F250, 4x2, Super cab, short bed, 6.2 and my yellow sticker cargo weight is 3415 lbs..

Just be very aware that if you do decide to go with F350, you MUST specify GVWR packages HIGHER than 10,000 lb..

F350 has multiple GVWR packages that START at 10,000 lbs (same as F250) so if you are looking for more capacity you must add the additional GVWR package if ordering..

If you buying off the lot, you will tend to find more "loaded" vehicles (IE have more bells and whistles and gadgets that add more to the curb weight).. It is for that reason I ORDER my vehicles with the exact configuration I want..

Ordering typically only takes 6-8 weeks and adds no extra cost, often times since you are not buying all the gingerbread options it saves you a lot of money.

[Grit_dog]

rhagfo wrote:

HikeN2Mts wrote:
Looking at 2016 F250 XLT crew cab short bed trucks,gas model shows 2755 payload on door and diesel shows 2122 lbs with a option on it called camper pkg- upgraded front & rear springs and stabilizer bar. Is 2122 lbs the average for most F250 what options do you have if your is above that? The F350 had 3203 lbs payload, just thought 250 would be a little more with diesel,

Do yourself a big favor, and get a F350 SRW, then payload is less of an issue.

^. This, if you don't want to mess with aftermarket stuff.

[Grit_dog]

If you're talking real world payload and not stickered payload which has class limitations in a 3/4ton, then the diesel doesn't really subtract much of any as it's pretty well centered over the front axle.
But the newer 250s have a comparatively soft rear spring rate in my experience. My 2013 with an estimated 12-1400 lbs in the bed and about 500lbs of tongue weight would squat pretty good. They hold well once on the lower overload leaf but are riding really nose high by then.
All easily rectified with some help for the springs. Rest of the truck will handle more.

[rhagfo]

HikeN2Mts wrote:
Looking at 2016 F250 XLT crew cab short bed trucks,gas model shows 2755 payload on door and diesel shows 2122 lbs with a option on it called camper pkg- upgraded front & rear springs and stabilizer bar. Is 2122 lbs the average for most F250 what options do you have if your is above that? The F350 had 3203 lbs payload, just thought 250 would be a little more with diesel,

Do yourself a big favor, and get a F350 SRW, then payload is less of an issue.

[Chuck_thehammer]

not the engine .. frame, suspension, axles... so Diesel is a minus on this truck. and 4x4 is a minus.

the "XL" gas 2 wheel drive long bed has the best towing/carrying of the F 250 class.
with Tow and camper packages.

and CC and short bed is also a minus ....

my 2012 F 250 "XL" 6.2L Gas SC long bed, 2 wheel drive with 17 inch wheels can do 3780. and tow 12,500. I just went and looked at the tag.