Ford superduty inventory ?

[Hedgehog]

I am looking to order a F350 to tow my new Montana fifthwheel. Even though I've owned ford diesels in the past, I had my heart set on ordering a 6.2 gas with 4.30 gears since I will only be towing in New England and under 2,000 miles a year.
Well now I am starting to second guess my decision on the gas engine even though I know it will do the job. My main reasons for second guessing is because of power and resale value although I would be more likely to keep the gas rig longer since it's cheaper to fix out of warranty. During my truck quest, I can't help but notice that the ford dealers are loaded with 2015 power strokes and also a lot of 2011-2014 trade ins. Some 2014's have less than 2,000 miles on them. It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?

[larry_barnhart]

Well I can tell you I have seen all 3 brands being tow and one of them was our new 05 with 3625 miles on the new truck. Plugged fuel filter. I learned it was time to learn how to change our fuel filter and now have done it 13 times.

chevman

[FishOnOne]

Bird Freak wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do your self a favor and look the trucks over at GM and RAM dealerships.

Why? he knows what he wants.

"It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?"

That does not sound so sure to me!

I just figured you were pushing Ram as usual. Around here the lots have more of them because they are selling well. If my friends 2015 is any indication of reliability then they are doing well. He put his in service Feb. 1st hauling new campers to dealers. As of now he has 72K miles and is problem free. He is already thinking of trading and that makes me wonder about mileage on used trucks on some lots.

Cumminsv98 is addicted to the goat cool aid so you just have to take what he says with a grain of salt. :W

Back in April I was going to my boat storage down I10 and low behold I see another RAM pulling a 5ver broken down on the shoulder. About an hour later I go by again with the intent to pull over if required and the RAM was on a Super Duty F550 flat bed and a Chevy was hooked up to the 5ver. I was tempted to take a picture to share with cumminsv98 but you know what they say about karma!

The RAM was a camper hauler probably going to Camper World or Holiday World which was about ~6 miles from where he broke down. At least this time it wasn't a retired couple that I dealt with a couple of times some time ago.

To date I've yet to see a Duramax or Powerstroke broke down with a camper in tow and I see a lot of campers in tow on I10.

[Bird_Freak]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do your self a favor and look the trucks over at GM and RAM dealerships.

Why? he knows what he wants.

"It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?"

That does not sound so sure to me!

I just figured you were pushing Ram as usual. Around here the lots have more of them because they are selling well. If my friends 2015 is any indication of reliability then they are doing well. He put his in service Feb. 1st hauling new campers to dealers. As of now he has 72K miles and is problem free. He is already thinking of trading and that makes me wonder about mileage on used trucks on some lots.

[Cummins12V98]

Bird Freak wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do your self a favor and look the trucks over at GM and RAM dealerships.

Why? he knows what he wants.

"It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?"

That does not sound so sure to me!

[Ryan_Elli1]

If resale values are partially based on supply, and there are little to no gas Super Dutys, there is little supply for the demand. Seems to me there resale may not be as some may think. Either way the resale value is proportional to what you pay.

[time2roll]

I would never get an option to improve resale. Get what you want and need only.

[Bird_Freak]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Do your self a favor and look the trucks over at GM and RAM dealerships.

Why? he knows what he wants.

[FishOnOne]

Hedgehog wrote:
I am looking to order a F350 to tow my new Montana fifthwheel. Even though I've owned ford diesels in the past, I had my heart set on ordering a 6.2 gas with 4.30 gears since I will only be towing in New England and under 2,000 miles a year.
Well now I am starting to second guess my decision on the gas engine even though I know it will do the job. My main reasons for second guessing is because of power and resale value although I would be more likely to keep the gas rig longer since it's cheaper to fix out of warranty. During my truck quest, I can't help but notice that the ford dealers are loaded with 2015 power strokes and also a lot of 2011-2014 trade ins. Some 2014's have less than 2,000 miles on them. It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?

The 6.7 Power Strokes are very reliable and make great daily drivers too. Many people buy 3/4 or 1 ton trucks and don't really need them and the rougher ride makes many who are use to a 1/2 ton trucks ride go back to a 1/2 ton truck.

BTW... At the local Ford dealer here I see several used Super Duty's and used RAM 2500/3500 trucks on the used Ford lot just about all the time. The resale for the Super Duty's 6.7 PSD are so high that it's economically better to purchase new.

Good luck... 6.2 or 6.7 PSD are both great engines with great Torque Shift 6 speed transmissions.

[larry_barnhart]

Hedgehog wrote:
I am looking to order a F350 to tow my new Montana fifthwheel. Even though I've owned ford diesels in the past, I had my heart set on ordering a 6.2 gas with 4.30 gears since I will only be towing in New England and under 2,000 miles a year.
Well now I am starting to second guess my decision on the gas engine even though I know it will do the job. My main reasons for second guessing is because of power and resale value although I would be more likely to keep the gas rig longer since it's cheaper to fix out of warranty. During my truck quest, I can't help but notice that the ford dealers are loaded with 2015 power strokes and also a lot of 2011-2014 trade ins. Some 2014's have less than 2,000 miles on them. It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?

I would buy the gas engine for what you feel is your towing needs.

chevman

[MFL]

Most of the Super Duty trucks that my area dealers carry are diesel powered. I see more new 350s on the lot, than 250s. Dealers are getting smarter, if you require a diesel, you should be getting the 350.

Funny thing, at the local CGs, you see most TTs, and many FWs, being towed with 150s. I noticed one yesterday, from another state, a 150 ecoboost, towing a 33' FW bunkhouse, with truck full of family, bed full of bikes and gear.

Whatever works, use what ya got! Lol

Anyway, I think a 350 diesel would be better for towing, but in your case, a 250/350 6.2 would work just fine.

Jerry

[slapshot12]

Down here, they sell more diesels than gas trucks. When I was shopping for my 250, I'd guess it was around 2/3 diesel and 1/3 gas inventory. I have a '15 250 diesel and my neighbor has a '15 350 diesel. Other than his tailgate getting stolen, not a single issue with either one. I did get the extended warranty for any engine repairs if I keep it that long. The '15's may not be selling quite as fast because there's a redesign coming for '16 I think. With rebates and discounts, I got almost $11k off sticker.

I was looking for a gas truck too, but ended up with a diesel. Many friends told me to get the diesel since it will tow way better and the resale value is much higher, and more desirable when traded in or sold. I ended up with a '15 250 Lariat diesel 4x4 crew cab and really like the truck.

[Cummins12V98]

Do your self a favor and look the trucks over at GM and RAM dealerships.

[Gdetrailer]

Hedgehog wrote:
I am looking to order a F350 to tow my new Montana fifthwheel. Even though I've owned ford diesels in the past, I had my heart set on ordering a 6.2 gas with 4.30 gears since I will only be towing in New England and under 2,000 miles a year.
Well now I am starting to second guess my decision on the gas engine even though I know it will do the job. My main reasons for second guessing is because of power and resale value although I would be more likely to keep the gas rig longer since it's cheaper to fix out of warranty. During my truck quest, I can't help but notice that the ford dealers are loaded with 2015 power strokes and also a lot of 2011-2014 trade ins. Some 2014's have less than 2,000 miles on them. It makes me wonder, are they traded do to problems? Also, is the lots loaded with 2015 diesels because people want them or because the dealer is stuck with them?

Don't second guess yourself, the 6.2 is a very capable engine.

Forget about resale "value", you PAY CONSIDERABLY LESS for a gas engine (almost $10K less when you add up all the REQUIRED "options" for diesel engine) so therefore resale "value" will also be less and therefore a "wash".

As far as to what is on dealers lots, well they want to PUSH the vehicles which have the HIGHEST SALES PROFITS as possible. That happens to be the most fancy and fully loaded vehicles including diesel engines. Dealers make one heck of a lot MORE PROFIT (IE LARGER PROFIT MARGINS PLUS BIGGER DEALER HOLD BACK) selling a diesel truck than if they sold a basic XL truck with only the bare minimum essentials.

This means that the dealer only has to sell two fully loaded diesel trucks instead of four or even five XL base models and still get the same profit.

[WyoTraveler]

Most of the PUs on the new dealer lots around here are all F150s. Just about everything else has to be ordered.