GAS 6.6 GM

[Itchey_Feet]

Any real time towing with this engine out there?

[Curly2001]

thanks
Curly

[parker_rowe]

Curly2001 wrote:
I wonder if the "new" 6.6 gasser is similar to the old Pontiac 6.6 ltr. gas engine?
Curly

Other than the fact that they both have 8 cylinders and 6.6 liters of displacement, they are completely different animals.

[Curly2001]

I wonder if the "new" 6.6 gasser is similar to the old Pontiac 6.6 ltr. gas engine?
Curly

[GeoBoy]

billtex wrote:

wowens79 wrote:
That 6spd has probably cost them a sale to me. I’ve got an early 6.0 that has been a great truck, but it does struggle with our camper. I held off on buying a truck for 2 years to see what the new one had to offer. I’d checked out the Ram 6.4 in case my truck died, and read about their gear selection issues, then when the Chevy 6.6 came out I was disappointed that it had the 6spd.

After reading forums and watching reviews everyone is raving about how much improvement the 8spd made in the Ram, and I’m beginning to hear things about the Chevy 6spd year selection.

I test drove both last week, and the Ram 8spd felt much better, and I liked the interior better. I really wanted to love the Chevy since my current one I’ve had for 17 years, and 238k miles of reliable service. I feel guilty leaving Chevy, but at this point I will probably go with the Ram.

I could have written this myself.
Go drive the Ford 10 speeds also.

I have been with GM for 30 years...that may be coming to an end.

Bill, I believe you will miss the better ride of a GM HD truck vs a Ford. I also find the ergonomics on the GM’s to be nicer. Good luck.

[wowens79]

billtex wrote:

wowens79 wrote:
That 6spd has probably cost them a sale to me. I’ve got an early 6.0 that has been a great truck, but it does struggle with our camper. I held off on buying a truck for 2 years to see what the new one had to offer. I’d checked out the Ram 6.4 in case my truck died, and read about their gear selection issues, then when the Chevy 6.6 came out I was disappointed that it had the 6spd.

After reading forums and watching reviews everyone is raving about how much improvement the 8spd made in the Ram, and I’m beginning to hear things about the Chevy 6spd year selection.

I test drove both last week, and the Ram 8spd felt much better, and I liked the interior better. I really wanted to love the Chevy since my current one I’ve had for 17 years, and 238k miles of reliable service. I feel guilty leaving Chevy, but at this point I will probably go with the Ram.

I could have written this myself.
Go drive the Ford 10 speeds also.

I have been with GM for 30 years...that may be coming to an end.

I’ve been trying to avoid looking at that new 7.3 gasser. I’m afraid it may add another truck into the mix.

[billtex]

wowens79 wrote:
That 6spd has probably cost them a sale to me. I’ve got an early 6.0 that has been a great truck, but it does struggle with our camper. I held off on buying a truck for 2 years to see what the new one had to offer. I’d checked out the Ram 6.4 in case my truck died, and read about their gear selection issues, then when the Chevy 6.6 came out I was disappointed that it had the 6spd.

After reading forums and watching reviews everyone is raving about how much improvement the 8spd made in the Ram, and I’m beginning to hear things about the Chevy 6spd year selection.

I test drove both last week, and the Ram 8spd felt much better, and I liked the interior better. I really wanted to love the Chevy since my current one I’ve had for 17 years, and 238k miles of reliable service. I feel guilty leaving Chevy, but at this point I will probably go with the Ram.

I could have written this myself.
Go drive the Ford 10 speeds also.

I have been with GM for 30 years...that may be coming to an end.

[Dadoffourgirls]

Both the 2019 and 2020 have the MYD 6 speed. The specs are the same. Therefore, I believe that it is the same transmission.

[wowens79]

Curly2001 wrote:
My other question would be is that the same 6 speed transmission used on the 6.0 engine and if so, is it beefy enough for the new 6.6 engine? If so, that tells me it is a pretty stout tranny, too.
Curly

My understanding is that it is a beefed up version on the old 6spd

[Curly2001]

My other question would be is that the same 6 speed transmission used on the 6.0 engine and if so, is it beefy enough for the new 6.6 engine? If so, that tells me it is a pretty stout tranny, too.
Curly

[wowens79]

mkirsch wrote:
Considering that the engine was just introduced for the 2020 model year, and didn't hit the lots until after the camping season was pretty much over, and it's currently JANUARY, I sincerely doubt there are many with towing experience yet. After Memorial Day you'll likely find a lot more feedback.

What do you mean camping season is over??? It’s 60 and sunny in Georgia today. I normally winterize 3-4 times because we’ll head out on pretty weekends.

[mkirsch]

Considering that the engine was just introduced for the 2020 model year, and didn't hit the lots until after the camping season was pretty much over, and it's currently JANUARY, I sincerely doubt there are many with towing experience yet. After Memorial Day you'll likely find a lot more feedback.

[Grit_dog]

ksss wrote:
You may be right. I guess my issue would be with the fact that the Duragas with the 6 speed and 3:73's is retarding what should have been a very positive rollout of a long awaited replacement powerplant for the 6.0. At least with Ram, their diesel is powerful enough to still be competetive with fewer grears. Gas engines have a harder time solving drivetrain shortcomings through pure power. Much like the Ram 6.4 and it its tranny gearing issues. Sure in a couple years they can put a 10 in the Duragas and create more excitement, but I think they overly crippled this new truck by not reaching far enough.

Oh, I agree 100% with what you're saying. It makes no sense to me either.
But neither did Dodge keeping an anemic 4 speed behind the Cummins for years while the others had 5 and 6 cogs.
Or similar to the diesel power wars. Why bump 10-20-50 ft lbs or hp every other or 3rd year when they could have pumped up the Dmax or Cummins to basically where they are at now today, reliably 15 years ago?
Been reliably running a tuned LB7 and now a tuned 5.9 reliably for many years and many miles. Both were/are not over the top mods, but both have the same power or more than the new trucks with no expensive or complicated failures due to the power and certainly within the realm of the OEMs to build to support the power even back in the day.
It's marketing and economics, not what is the end all beat all for one year.
I'll bet the majority of truck owners (fleets included) don't nerd out or obsess over the number like some of us. For the majority's, the bro who can tell his neighbor his new ____ has 10hp more than the neighbors truck is good enough.

[wowens79]

That 6spd has probably cost them a sale to me. I’ve got an early 6.0 that has been a great truck, but it does struggle with our camper. I held off on buying a truck for 2 years to see what the new one had to offer. I’d checked out the Ram 6.4 in case my truck died, and read about their gear selection issues, then when the Chevy 6.6 came out I was disappointed that it had the 6spd.

After reading forums and watching reviews everyone is raving about how much improvement the 8spd made in the Ram, and I’m beginning to hear things about the Chevy 6spd year selection.

I test drove both last week, and the Ram 8spd felt much better, and I liked the interior better. I really wanted to love the Chevy since my current one I’ve had for 17 years, and 238k miles of reliable service. I feel guilty leaving Chevy, but at this point I will probably go with the Ram.

[ksss]

You may be right. I guess my issue would be with the fact that the Duragas with the 6 speed and 3:73's is retarding what should have been a very positive rollout of a long awaited replacement powerplant for the 6.0. At least with Ram, their diesel is powerful enough to still be competetive with fewer grears. Gas engines have a harder time solving drivetrain shortcomings through pure power. Much like the Ram 6.4 and it its tranny gearing issues. Sure in a couple years they can put a 10 in the Duragas and create more excitement, but I think they overly crippled this new truck by not reaching far enough.