Dec-01-2015 05:40 PM
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Dec-06-2015 01:48 PM
Flashman wrote:
Fish
It has always fascinated me the amount of devotion that Ford has created in their fan base. I don't think that GM or Ram could have weathered the fiasco that was the 6.0 and 6.4L engines. I know that the 6.2 and 6.5 were not great engines but compared to what was available by the others they were comparatively not that bad. The 6.0 and 6.4 cant begin to compared to the Duramax and Cummins engines. Yet Ford weathered that storm and Ford guys many who went from the the 6.0 to the 6.4L bought right into the 6.7. Ford still owns the HD market. Many guys having been bitten bad by the those poor engines, came back for more. I think that is the reason Ford is much more difficult with warranty work then GM is reported to be. Ford can afford to piss people off and GM cant. Ford learned over the last 15 years that there is no penalty from their fan base for poor durability, so being very stringent on their warranty approvals likely carries no penalty either. I think they have been right there as well. It is an enviable position if your an OEM.
I know it sounds like the description fits you perfectly - but do not take it personally.
Dec-06-2015 12:23 PM
Flashman wrote:
Fish
It has always fascinated me the amount of devotion that Ford has created in their fan base. I don't think that GM or Ram could have weathered the fiasco that was the 6.0 and 6.4L engines. I know that the 6.2 and 6.5 were not great engines but compared to what was available by the others they were comparatively not that bad. The 6.0 and 6.4 cant begin to compared to the Duramax and Cummins engines. Yet Ford weathered that storm and Ford guys many who went from the the 6.0 to the 6.4L bought right into the 6.7. Ford still owns the HD market. Many guys having been bitten bad by the those poor engines, came back for more. I think that is the reason Ford is much more difficult with warranty work then GM is reported to be. Ford can afford to piss people off and GM cant. Ford learned over the last 15 years that there is no penalty from their fan base for poor durability, so being very stringent on their warranty approvals likely carries no penalty either. I think they have been right there as well. It is an enviable position if your an OEM.
I know it sounds like the description fits you perfectly - but do not take it personally.
Dec-06-2015 10:33 AM
Dec-06-2015 10:16 AM
blofgren wrote:ksss wrote:GBuilders wrote:
I have a buddy that owns nothing but Fords Even though he got hung with the 6.0 problems left him stranded several times, so he traded in for a 6.4 and guess what happened again. He would never own a GM or Ram. Some Ford guys are like that, he thinks that Ford actually cares what he says.
It has always fascinated me the amount of devotion that Ford has created in their fan base. I don't think that GM or Ram could have weathered the fiasco that was the 6.0 and 6.4L engines. I know that the 6.2 and 6.5 were not great engines but compared to what was available by the others they were comparatively not that bad. The 6.0 and 6.4 cant begin to compared to the Duramax and Cummins engines. Yet Ford weathered that storm and Ford guys many who went from the the 6.0 to the 6.4L bought right into the 6.7. Ford still owns the HD market. Many guys having been bitten bad by the those poor engines, came back for more. I think that is the reason Ford is much more difficult with warranty work then GM is reported to be. Ford can afford to piss people off and GM cant. Ford learned over the last 15 years that there is no penalty from their fan base for poor durability, so being very stringent on their warranty approvals likely carries no penalty either. I think they have been right there as well. It is an enviable position if your an OEM.
Exactly right and well said. I bucked this trend, though :B
Dec-06-2015 10:14 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"About time for someone to come on and say----
O Ya, well Mcdonalds sells the most burgers."
You said it!
Dec-06-2015 09:39 AM
Dec-06-2015 09:26 AM
ksss wrote:GBuilders wrote:
I have a buddy that owns nothing but Fords Even though he got hung with the 6.0 problems left him stranded several times, so he traded in for a 6.4 and guess what happened again. He would never own a GM or Ram. Some Ford guys are like that, he thinks that Ford actually cares what he says.
It has always fascinated me the amount of devotion that Ford has created in their fan base. I don't think that GM or Ram could have weathered the fiasco that was the 6.0 and 6.4L engines. I know that the 6.2 and 6.5 were not great engines but compared to what was available by the others they were comparatively not that bad. The 6.0 and 6.4 cant begin to compared to the Duramax and Cummins engines. Yet Ford weathered that storm and Ford guys many who went from the the 6.0 to the 6.4L bought right into the 6.7. Ford still owns the HD market. Many guys having been bitten bad by the those poor engines, came back for more. I think that is the reason Ford is much more difficult with warranty work then GM is reported to be. Ford can afford to piss people off and GM cant. Ford learned over the last 15 years that there is no penalty from their fan base for poor durability, so being very stringent on their warranty approvals likely carries no penalty either. I think they have been right there as well. It is an enviable position if your an OEM.
Dec-06-2015 07:54 AM
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Dec-06-2015 05:21 AM
ktmrfs wrote:
Ford is the highest volume truck BRAND. General Motors Corp sell the MOST trucks. Both are true statements. And it has been that way for many many years.
Ford chooses to make a point of their position. GM doesn't. Boils down to what each company wants to "Brag about" I guess.
But in the end, to me, it's nice to see 3 mfg of trucks that are pretty much equals. Boils down to what you want.
Dec-06-2015 03:54 AM
shepstone wrote:
The Ridgeline doesnt well at all !! :B