Overwhelmingly BIO-diesel in Portland, Oregon

[ParkCountry]

We're now in Portland, Oregon, having spent the past few days in Bend, Oregon. One thing I have really, really noticed here is the difficulty in finding PURE DIESEL. Just be aware that most stations that carry Diesel here will be a mixture of between 5% and 20% BIO-diesel. If you get on the GasBuddy.com website and try finding the cheapest diesel, the cheaper/cheapest listings will be Bio-diesel. Where some stations are charging ss low as $2.19/gallon, I finally found a Chevron station in Troutdale (just east of Portland) at the I-84, Exit 17, location that sells PURE diesel ($2.59/gallon). Just look for the huge Love's Travel Stop and this Chevron station is right next to it on the west side. I have nothing but contempt for the "environmentalists" and the Federal government for pulling this **** on the American public. We are headed for the Oregon Coast in 2 days. Does anyone know if the same problem exists out there, and suggested stations for PURE Diesel?

[Turtle_n_Peeps]

Tyler0215 wrote:
Politics aside please. The science is there.
Bio-diesel or ethanol blends have been proven to not harm engines or components.
I have used ethanol blends in all my vehicles for many years with no problems at all.

Really? Pretty interesting statement considering every single diesel maker disagrees with you. You know something that they don't?

First there are compatibility problems.


Then there is the problem with the SCR and DPF systems.

Then there is post injection problems with Biodiesel.


Need I go on? And I didn't even talk about Alkie in gasoline! :R

Where do some of you come up with this stuff? The disinformation and misinformation on this forum is astounding! :R

[darsben1]

Why are people confusing this thread with facts. The OP is against bio-diesel and he has a perfect right to be against whether he is right or WRONG.

[sonora]

rvartie wrote:
Your part = bend over and subsidize whoever donated the most money to the politicians. This stuff doesn't do one lick to change the environment. Follow the $.

X2

[ktmrfs]

oregon mandates at least B5 and has for years regarless of what a pump sticker may say. B20 is exempt from road tax. I've run B5 or B20 in my last truck since new unless I couldn't find it. At 150K miles, injector balance rates were within 0.2 of new, fuel filter life wasn't affected, nor was anything else in the engine. Bio adds lubricity, increase Cetane, has the same btu per gallon as normal diesel. my mpg between regular diesel B5 and B20 is indishstinguisable. Do not see any downside operation wise.

now B20 is less than $2.00 gallon in many places.

If you want to come through oregon and not get any bio you better have a very big aux tank filled before you cross the border cause you won't find any non bio on road diesel and I'd guess that the off road is at least B5 as well in virtually all cases.

[Fish_mojo]

What is your objection to biodiesel? I read your past forum entries and you have a 2012
Ford 6.7 Scorpion engine. Designed for up to B20. Biodiesel reduces fossil fuel use. Believe it or not, that is a good thing for the environment and the economy.

[Durb]

Cross over the I-205 bridge into Vancouver, WA and take the Andresen Road exit West. 1/4 mile and Costco is on the corner. #2 diesel is $2.49 gal.

[Tyler0215]

Politics aside please. The science is there.
Bio-diesel or ethanol blends have been proven to not harm engines or components.
I have used ethanol blends in all my vehicles for many years with no problems at all.

[korbe]

I wasn't aware of any blending, but filled up many times in Oregon and the coast this summer and my truck still purrs right-a-long.

[carringb]

The whole state has a B5 mandate. If you found a sticker stating something less than that, it's an old sticker. The primary reason was reducing particulates emissions, but the mandate actually only took foot when enough local biodiesel was produced to meet the blending requirements. So basically, it burns cleaner, it supports local agriculture, and it's better for your injectors.

[Bedlam]

My PSD liked B10 and my CTD is designed for B20. I found my Ford ran better on bio diesel since it had better lubricators than the LSD and I didn't have to add aftertreatments.

OTH: If we want to talk about Ethanol based gasoline, I can give you many reasons to not use it.

BTW: We will also be on the OR coast before the weekend hits and then will be heading to central OR after the holiday.

[Naio]

Oooo... homophobia! That is so manly!

(Yeah, I know this is OT for this forum. But somebody has to stand up for people who may not have the safety to stand up for themselves.)

[rvartie]

Your part = bend over and subsidize whoever donated the most money to the politicians. This stuff doesn't do one lick to change the environment. Follow the $.

[mkirsch]

Sounds like someone's lumping biodiesel in with ethanol and/or confusing it with waste vegetable oil.

[jus2shy]

5 percent blends are pretty much mandated in Oregon and Washington. Or 2 percent. But that low blend is actually beneficial to diesels, even older ones. It reintroduces lubricity to the fuel system that was lost when we went to ulsd diesel. It's the higher blends you should shy away from. Those blends have too strong if a solvent reaction. But it will clean out your fuels system (and eat a few gaskets or seals as well if you have an older vehicles.)

[diazr2]

2oldman wrote:
Other than contempt, what would be your logical reason for wanting pure diesel?

I am not sure why,, but I think some foreign diesels made in other countries can't run on the bio-fuels.. not sure though :h