Sailun AT tires on tow vehicle

[outlaw85]

I tried a few searches here and there aren't many reviews out there on the world wide web. These would be for our F350 DRW

I'm looking at these SAILUN TERRAMAX A/T 245/75R17 (load range E 10ply)

I know the trailer tires are highly praised and just wonder if anybody has used the truck tires. If so, do they get the same trust?

Here is the datasheet- http://www.sailuntires.ca/PLT/AT.html

Thanks,
Outlaw

[Grit_dog]

Sure 100k is possible and doable on hard compound, freeway driven, no traction having street tires.
BUT this is always funny to hear some bragging about tire life and others worried about the "safety" of putting an extra bag of groceries over the door sticker weights.
"I -5" or any other road in the PNW where it rains all the time and is cold is about the unsafest place in the world to have a set of 80k mile old pavement pounder tires.

Although if a person up here thinks that is ok, then they're probably hanging out at 50mph in the hov lane with all the hippies and Asian drivers and hydroplaning isn't as much of an issue if yer driving slow as molasses....

An objective takeaway though after living up here for over 5 years now is tires last MUCH longer here than most other climates. Wet pavement and low traction for the majority of the year is very kind to tire tread life.

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Cooper has in the past had a long wearing AT tire also. I personally have not found Michelin to be that good of a tire in LT versions. Miles I get vs traction for a given rating, ie Hwy vs AT vs Traction is too high cost per mile. I also do more what I would call city driving, so that is harder on tires than highway driving.
Altho I do like the XDE M+S Michelin traction tire on the MDT. That has been a good tire.

Marty

Yes, but the 100K out of the Michelins like some claim :@

Ain't no "CLAIM" about it! 120K on Michelins years ago on C20 2wd and more recently 120k on 3rd gen take offs on 2500 4x4 RAM. 100K on the 3rd gen take off BFG's same truck.

NW weather commuting 35-100 miles each way every day.

"If one stays on the interstate, yes, you go long than one on the city/county roads."

YUP, I got to know I-5 VERY well on my 1,000,000 mile commuting career.

Years ago, okay, what you getting now out of those Michelins, the subject is All Terrain, we need to stick to that, and compare apples to apples.

As I have stated before, many need or want All Terrain, not All Season, big difference.

[Cummins12V98]

cummins2014 wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Cooper has in the past had a long wearing AT tire also. I personally have not found Michelin to be that good of a tire in LT versions. Miles I get vs traction for a given rating, ie Hwy vs AT vs Traction is too high cost per mile. I also do more what I would call city driving, so that is harder on tires than highway driving.
Altho I do like the XDE M+S Michelin traction tire on the MDT. That has been a good tire.

Marty

Yes, but the 100K out of the Michelins like some claim :@

Ain't no "CLAIM" about it! 120K on Michelins years ago on C20 2wd and more recently 120k on 3rd gen take offs on 2500 4x4 RAM. 100K on the 3rd gen take off BFG's same truck.

NW weather commuting 35-100 miles each way every day.

"If one stays on the interstate, yes, you go long than one on the city/county roads."

YUP, I got to know I-5 VERY well on my 1,000,000 mile commuting career.

[23mikey]

Just pulled the trigger on the Sailun Terramax AT 4S. Install date is Jul 13.
We'll see if Sailun makes as good an LT all terrain tire as they do the S637 trailer tire.

[blt2ski]

cummins2014 wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Cooper has in the past had a long wearing AT tire also. I personally have not found Michelin to be that good of a tire in LT versions. Miles I get vs traction for a given rating, ie Hwy vs AT vs Traction is too high cost per mile. I also do more what I would call city driving, so that is harder on tires than highway driving.
Altho I do like the XDE M+S Michelin traction tire on the MDT. That has been a good tire.

Marty

Yes, but the 100K out of the Michelins like some claim :@

I have yet to get a set or axel alone of tires to go 100K miles. 60-70K miles seems about as long as I get, usually more like 40-60K depending upon the truck, useage etc. If one stays on the interstate, yes, you go long than one on the city/county roads.

Marty

[cummins2014]

blt2ski wrote:
Cooper has in the past had a long wearing AT tire also. I personally have not found Michelin to be that good of a tire in LT versions. Miles I get vs traction for a given rating, ie Hwy vs AT vs Traction is too high cost per mile. I also do more what I would call city driving, so that is harder on tires than highway driving.
Altho I do like the XDE M+S Michelin traction tire on the MDT. That has been a good tire.

Marty

Yes, but the 100K out of the Michelins like some claim :@

[blt2ski]

Cooper has in the past had a long wearing AT tire also. I personally have not found Michelin to be that good of a tire in LT versions. Miles I get vs traction for a given rating, ie Hwy vs AT vs Traction is too high cost per mile. I also do more what I would call city driving, so that is harder on tires than highway driving.
Altho I do like the XDE M+S Michelin traction tire on the MDT. That has been a good tire.

Marty

[cummins2014]

23mikey wrote:
RVBikers thanks for your input! A softer sidewall is not what I'm looking for. The OEM Michelins, I believe, have a soft sidewall as evidenced by the pressure (heat) rise on the front tires in unloaded mixed city / highway driving. Front pressure rises 10 psi (70 - 81) where the rears only go up 2-3 psi (55-58).

Sounds like I'll stay with my original pick, the Toyo Open Country AT2 that I've had great experience with on my '03 GMC 2500HD.

Thanks!

Mike

If its All Terrain tire someone is after ,then the Toyo's are hard to beat .

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

SidecarFlip wrote:
My thing with tires is simply, if they aren't Michelin or Firestone, I don't buy them. Sailun sounds Chinese to me.

They are Made in china.

Bridgestone makes a tire that wears like iron but does not have a great ride. Michelin Defenders will have a great ride and wear well.

IMO fighting the Sailuns is a losing battle, they have proven at least on the S637's to be a superior tire to the Goodyear G614 , not only in performance and reliability ,but cost. I suspect the same thing is going to prove out for these Sailun truck tires as well.


I know you are a big Michelin fan, but you are pushing an All Season tire, its comparing apples ,and oranges. Many want ,and need an All Terrain, and that is where I suspect this Sailun truck tire is going to come into play in a big way.

[StirCrazy]

I am running the 20" on my 14 F350 diesel SRW, I replaced BFG AT with these and so far they are out preforming the BFGs for about 1/2 the price. if they keep wearing like they are I will buy them again. oh and they handle pretty decent in the snow, I put them on in January.

Steve

[23mikey]

RVBikers thanks for your input! A softer sidewall is not what I'm looking for. The OEM Michelins, I believe, have a soft sidewall as evidenced by the pressure (heat) rise on the front tires in unloaded mixed city / highway driving. Front pressure rises 10 psi (70 - 81) where the rears only go up 2-3 psi (55-58).

Sounds like I'll stay with my original pick, the Toyo Open Country AT2 that I've had great experience with on my '03 GMC 2500HD.

Thanks!

Mike

[Cummins12V98]

SidecarFlip wrote:
My thing with tires is simply, if they aren't Michelin or Firestone, I don't buy them. Sailun sounds Chinese to me.

They are Made in china.

Bridgestone makes a tire that wears like iron but does not have a great ride. Michelin Defenders will have a great ride and wear well.

[RVbikers]

23mikey wrote:
Just saw this old post. I too am looking to change tires on my new '18 F350 DRW. I've had the Sailun S637 on our 5ver for 2 + years and 8000 miles. Awesome tire, especially on a 13k 5ver. Looking to upgrade the OEM Michelin tires LTX A/T. Previously had great luck with the Toyo Open Country A/T 2 on my '03 GMC 2500HD Duramax. Easily 50k+ miles, currently on second set. Was planning on those for the new truck when I saw the Sailun Terramx A/T. Simple Tire can get them to me for $100 less per tire than the Toyos. Decisions....decisions!

Any update from those who chose the Sailun??

Thanks,

Happy 4th!!

Mike

Mike,
I got the Sailun Terramax AT's for my dually. They are ok. I like the tread but haven't tried them in snow. The steering feels a little less responsive. I think the sidewalls are a little softer than others. I probably won't get them again. I have towed the 5er about 2,000 miles so far with no issues though.

[23mikey]

Just saw this old post. I too am looking to change tires on my new '18 F350 DRW. I've had the Sailun S637 on our 5ver for 2 + years and 8000 miles. Awesome tire, especially on a 13k 5ver. Looking to upgrade the OEM Michelin tires LTX A/T. Previously had great luck with the Toyo Open Country A/T 2 on my '03 GMC 2500HD Duramax. Easily 50k+ miles, currently on second set. Was planning on those for the new truck when I saw the Sailun Terramx A/T. Simple Tire can get them to me for $100 less per tire than the Toyos. Decisions....decisions!

Any update from those who chose the Sailun??

Thanks,

Happy 4th!!

Mike