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Thanksgiving in Anchorage in a Truck Camper 2.0

garryk6
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Thanksgiving in Anchorage in a Truck Camper 2.0.
For those who have been here for awhile may remember our maiden voyage in the 1966 Avion TC that we rebuilt.
2011 Thanksgiving trip report to Anchorage

We have recently booked ferry tickets to spend another Thanksgiving in Anchorage. With my work schedule, we have been unable to have a family break this summer. Similar to 2011 due to other situations.

We are hoping that we do not have to face the temperatures that we did in 2011, but this year it will be even more of a challenge, in that our oldest is off to the Military and married, but now we have my mother-in-law who lives with us, and the other three kids have grown-up significantly. the youngest two (twins b&g) are closing in on the 6 ft mark and they are only 14. Our 17yo is 5'10" and only a little shorter than his younger brother and sister.

New additions, is that I am installing an Atwoood 12000 BTU furnace soon that should keep us more comfortable, We have now a Engel fridge-freezer that is a 12V compressor unit. and hopefully we will have some new flooring in the camper before the trip.

The kids still have fond memories of that previous trip, and are very much looking forward to this next trip.

Garry
Garry K
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1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
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Billwilliams
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SouthpawHD
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I poke my head over here once and awhile, and you truck camper folks really seem to have some wonderful trips! Thanks for sharing.
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garryk6
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c.traveler2 wrote:
What a wonderful trip to Alaska and it looks like everything when pretty well. Also what is the name of the Bar-be-que place in 29 Palms, we're always looking for a new bar-be-que place and we pass through 29 Palms going to Kingman, Az. fairly often.


I'll ask my son and daughter-in-law.
Garry K
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1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

c_traveler2
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What a wonderful trip to Alaska and it looks like everything when pretty well. Also what is the name of the Bar-be-que place in 29 Palms, we're always looking for a new bar-be-que place and we pass through 29 Palms going to Kingman, Az. fairly often.
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garryk6
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Area13 wrote:
Great report Gary. Love the mirrors on your 02 SD, must be a huge improvement. Thinking about swapping mine, how did the install go, easy swap?


Thanks! The mirrors were one of the very first upgrades after I bought the truck. It had the dog ear mirrors and they were awful. There were some discussions one one of the Ford Superduty sites that had a wire by wire tutorial back in 2010 when I bought the truck. The hardest was threading the turn signal/park light and defrost wires across the cab behind everything and then through the small rubber tubes. Then I made up connectors and connected everything up.. The 02 Switch ends up working the side to side backwards, but it wasnt worth replacing the switch over. Took the better part of a saturday.

Hope that helps!
Garry
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2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

garryk6
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bka0721 wrote:


A few questions, with your family traveling;
Do you keep your tanks filled with water and in use? I just finished a period of below zero weather for multiple days and teens and 20s for highs for 2 weeks without winterizing, still using my faucets and showers.

The other question would be with all of your wonderful upgrades have you considered installing an aux propane tank? There are many side tanks, like used in Tigers, which could meet this upgrade. As you know I carry 114 gallons of propane and it is one of the best things I did when putting my project together.

As for the condensation, don't forget with all those people breathing there is going to be an amazing amount of condensation, just from that source alone. If you can utilize dry heat (electric) it certainly controls the condensation. I too have freezing in the corners and cab over. A couple of years back even frozen vegetable cans in the cabinets. But have never had any freeze damage in my Lance camper.

I wonder have you considered more extreme winterizing as btggraphix did a few years back with his TC? Reserving a short time to open up the camper (even when in the teens) goes a long way in removing condensation during extended TC camping in freezing weather.

Again, thanks so much for sharing about the tires, chains and larger (read tall) family joining on this holiday adventure. It is nice to see more TC owners out here in the winter with me with just a few cold weather practices used. Maybe more will consider not parking their TCs until spring.

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We travel in the winter with the potable tank dry, and the water pump dry. I put the pink stuff in the sink trap, and plumbing on the grey water side. As for the commode, it is a necessity when traveling and use in the winter in Alaska. It is a recirculating toilet, and we found out 5 years ago that if I use windshield wiper fluid (Good to -50F) and a formaldehyde based toilet chemical, all works well. No smell, and flushes all the time.

I have a second narrow vertical tank that I have, but have been searching for the right plumbing to plumb it from the original tank locker to the new locker, and either put in a shift style regulator, or just manually unscrew the hose from one bottle to an extension hose to the other bottle...

I have added alot of 1" foam board and reflectix since our first trip 5 years ago, and it has made a big difference. I hope to add additional insulation as I continue to upgrade it, but we have found that we do some work, then use it to see what works and what doesn't, and then repeat.

Fortunately didn't need the chains, but was very glad for the 19.5 studded tires!
Thanks again for the words of encouragement!
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

garryk6
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GoinThisAway wrote:
Wow! What a trip! Too bad you had to work on the trip but sounds like you were able to make the most of it. Many thanks for the time you took to share your story and photos.


Thanks for the encouragement! Weather has cleared off here on the island, so hopefully I can pull the plow and camper today, as I need to get the truck in the garage to replace the front drive line. It is squealing and rumbling. So I don't want to chance throwing it...
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper

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Interesting adventure.

Area13
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Great report Gary. Love the mirrors on your 02 SD, must be a huge improvement. Thinking about swapping mine, how did the install go, easy swap?
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bka0721
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As always, great to read and enjoy your photos, on your most recent trip. Glad you were able to spend time with your two families. With your kids growing up so fast, I am sure this will be a prelude of holidays to come off visiting the kids in their own homelands.

A few questions, with your family traveling;
Do you keep your tanks filled with water and in use? I just finished a period of below zero weather for multiple days and teens and 20s for highs for 2 weeks without winterizing, still using my faucets and showers.

The other question would be with all of your wonderful upgrades have you considered installing an aux propane tank? There are many side tanks, like used in Tigers, which could meet this upgrade. As you know I carry 114 gallons of propane and it is one of the best things I did when putting my project together.

As for the condensation, don't forget with all those people breathing there is going to be an amazing amount of condensation, just from that source alone. If you can utilize dry heat (electric) it certainly controls the condensation. I too have freezing in the corners and cab over. A couple of years back even frozen vegetable cans in the cabinets. But have never had any freeze damage in my Lance camper.

I wonder have you considered more extreme winterizing as btggraphix did a few years back with his TC? Reserving a short time to open up the camper (even when in the teens) goes a long way in removing condensation during extended TC camping in freezing weather.

Again, thanks so much for sharing about the tires, chains and larger (read tall) family joining on this holiday adventure. It is nice to see more TC owners out here in the winter with me with just a few cold weather practices used. Maybe more will consider not parking their TCs until spring.

b
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GoinThisAway
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Wow! What a trip! Too bad you had to work on the trip but sounds like you were able to make the most of it. Many thanks for the time you took to share your story and photos.
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Wow! That truck with the cool camper and the big red plow is so awesome! I am filled with admiration and envy. That rig could handle anything. Well done!
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Nice pics and trip report!

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Well things are finally slowing enough to put together a trip report for you all.
As we were leaving Kodiak, this always involves going to the ferry terminal which is right next to one of Kodiak's many cannery's.
Here we are parked in the line to load up. My wife does not like to fly or go to sea, so with living on an island in Alaska, we choose the night ferry so she can take her dramamine, lay down in the bunkroom and sleep to wake up in Homer.





Here is the newly renovated pier with the ferry getting ready to load us all into the belly of the beast.



Additionally there were some plan changes... The job I have has Corporate offices in Anchorage, and since I work as a Contractor for the government, that contract is coming due this fiscal year. Just be fore leaving for vacation, I found out that I was required to make a presentation in California just after Thanksgiving, and in order to prepare, I needed to be in Anchorage for work over the same time period we were going to be gone. Additionally, I was needed after our return ferry tickets were booked, so I had to push back the ferry tickets to after I returned from California, and had to book flights to fly the family home from Anchorage on the Sunday after Thanksgiving... Also, my wife's mom would be joining my wife and I and our three high school kids for our little jaunt. All which was fine, but added to the complexity of our little trip.

Arriving in Homer, it was still dark. Overnight the seas were 10-15 ft, so it was not a bad trip, just enough rocking to put me to sleep. Once on the road out of Homer, I was very glad to have the studded Toyo 19.5 tires.







This was the sight for most of the trip up the Kenai Peninsula. Compact snow and ice, blowing snow and snow.

This is the Kenai River. A sight that most that visit Alaska don't get to see.


This is a pull off at a small lake right at the junction of the Sterling Highway and the Seward Highway. There was a fella ice skating, practicing his hockey skills as we stopped for a few pictures and some snacks.









As we come down Turnagain Pass, the snow began to diminish..





so that once we were past Girdwood, the road was mostly bare and dry.



Unfortunately, my mother-in-law had developed a very very bad cough that began on our ferry ride, such that when we got to Anchorage we headed straight to a clinic. Once I dropped my wife and her mom at the clinic, and they were verified to be seen, I had previously contacted a guy on Craigslist about a snow plow that was a bit bigger and heavier duty for my truck. You may have noticed on previous pictures the mating pockets for the quick mounting system hanging below my front bumper. So he was not too far from the clinic, so we went over to see it. We had arrived at a amenable price, as ling as it all worked fine, but it was about 15F, and the plow was surrounded by a absolute sheet of ice with about 1/4" of powder on top...

We were able to get the truck and plow mated, and we checked out the functions, which at first didn't work, but after checking all the plugs again, we identified a loose plug, and everything worked well. So I was going to take it off again, go to the bank and get the cash... well, the plow didn't want to come back off in the icy conditions... He also had the truck side brackets for a chevy as well as some of the harness... He ended up letting me take the plow with me to the bank, and then I returned with the cash, and we loaded the brackets and harness pieces into the camper, and went back to the clinic. So now I am traversing Anchorage in this...



We finally arrived at our friends house and parked in the driveway, plugged into the 110V, and went in to visit, while I turned on the new furnace. The inside temperature was 33F when we arrived at our friends, but in less than a half hour the air temp was balmy 69F.



In order to save propane, I had brought a small 1500W electric heater that I place on the step over the water tank. I set it on two elements and on a thermostat setting of roughly 3/4 scale, and even with the temperature dipping to single digits that night the furnace only kicked on a few times with it's thermostat set at 65F.

This was Thursday Night before Thanksgiving. Friday I went to work, and then came back to our friends house with even more people sick. Needless to say I worked Friday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and most of the family was sick at various stages through Wednesday.

Did I mention that we have REALLY GREAT FRIENDS!!! Monday through Wednesday a co-worker picked me up, so that I did not have to wake the family up early and kick them out of the camper. We had 3 to 4 sleeping in the camper, while my mother-in-law and one kid slept in the house. So this trip, we didn't have anyone sleeping in the cab of the F350.

Saturday night, I did run out of propane, so we ran to the local services station that sells propane too, and had the bottle filled. Does anyone else struggle with getting more than 3.5 gallons in the horizontal bottles? I may be under the wrong impression that they are supposed to hold 5 gallons... Anyway, no problem sleeping that night.

One of a few lessons learned this trip, that even with keeping a vent cracked, in cold weather moisture can and will freeze to various places around the inside of the camper. Particularly around the vent of the upper bunk... When the heat then gets to a point to allow the ice on the inside of the camper to melt, you end up with a bath in your bed... again, thank goodness for the furnace to help drive the moisture our of the bedding then next day...

We joined another family for Thanksgiving Day celebrations at a larger home, and had a great afternoon and evening together, then the women folk had this strange compulsion to go shopping... So then I took them to several stores that were open that night, and then came home, warmed up the camper and went to bed...

Then the whole family was feeling much better and away we went to go Black-Friday shopping... You can just imagine navigating with a TC the parking lots of the stores and malls, but add to that an additional 3 to 4 feet hanging off the nose, and it becomes almost comical!! I will tell you that people do get our of your way when they see me coming! :B

That night we had made arrangements to drive out to Palmer to visit some great friends that had moved off Kodiak this past spring after retiring from the USCG. They were headed to Georgia to find a job, and made it as far as Palmer, and stopped! He now works for an Airlines at the Anchorage Airport, and they live in Palmer. The day had had some early Freezing Fog so the drive to Palmer was beautiful!



















(Photo Credits go to my daughter sitting in the middle front seat with her legs spread over to moms side of the truck, trying not to get in the way of my shifting the ZF-6 manual...;) PS.. Shes nearly 6ft tall and only 14..:E

That night we came back down the Glenn Highway, and I set the furnace to 55F to see if it would maintain the camper at highway speeds. Sure-enough, when we arrived back in Anchorage, the camper was nice a toasty warm.

So Saturday, the family continued to get in the last of their Christmas Shopping, while Dad tried to keep the camper somewhat organized to allow for sleeping until everyone flew home Sunday. All worked out, and after Church Sunday, I drove the family to the Airport, came back to our friends house, and continued the preparations for my work presentation in California due Wednesday.

Monday brought me back to the offices for final preps, then back to our friends to leave the Truck and Camper till after the Cali trip, and then to the Airport, arriving in Oakland near midnight. Prepped some more Tuesday, and enjoyed the 55F and sunshine, then got rain Wednesday morning, and spent the day in a confectioner room presenting the bid for the next contract. Couldn't get out of there soon enough, though the bosses were happy with the presentation, now it is hurry-up and wait till the winner is announced at some undisclosed date in the future. So With not being able to get ferry tickets back to Kodiak until Sunday night, what's a guy to do??? Go back to Anchorage and wait for three days?? NOO WAY!! Time to go see son and daughter-in-law in 29-Palms!! Since no direct flights out of Oakland, a very nice co-worker of mine drove the rental car to take me to SFO airport across the bay to catch a direct flight to Palm Springs. Arrived very late into Palm Springs, found the rental car desk, picked up the rental, and headed off to Twenty Nine Palms. Glad it had GPS, as I would have been totally lost after midnight in the desert... Arrived about 1/4past midnight, a balmy 34F and my son was still stuck on base fixing tanks gearing up for an exercise and the wonderful rental they were able to get, since housing has been full has a non-functioning propane furnace, and the house was a warmer 48F with two small portable heaters. So I got to hug my son and talk for a few minutes before he grabbed a shower, and hit the sack to be back at 0730. So after taking a look at the rental in the day time, I took my wonderful daughter-in-law to lunch, she showed me 29 Palms, and then I mad a bee-line to Home Depot in the next town over. Picked up two more electric heaters, some LED bulbs and a bunch of weather stripping. Spent the afternoon doing house fixing, while she had to go to work. Their rental is a typical desert doublewide from years gone by, that seem to leach off the young marines that are waiting for base housing... But the kids have it done up nicely in the inside, and all of us can remember our first place after marrying, and all the challenges that it brings.



PS the Tahoe is the rental. It was nice, but I miss my Fords! :B





That Thursday we also went to the Base, and took my son lunch. Got to see the outside of the Tank yard. Those covers is all the shelter they get summer or winter to maintain the tanks. This day it got up to 45F but the wind picked up that evening to make it have a windchill of 25F. Good thing he was raised in Alaska, and already had Under armor long johns.



He informs us that it will be another long day, as they had some major repairs still left to do, since the previous tank mechanics had not taken care of some things that were very vital. He had just been transferred to this tank company in the last few months, and this was their first large exercise since arriving. Fortunately the Tank crews and the supervisors have seen his work ethic, and attention to detail, and even as a junior mechanic, he is doing some pretty major work to get these things in shape. That night he did not come home till 0230. Reminded me of the days that I worked those hours as a Mechanic on-board all the submarines that I served on before retiring and moving to Alaska.

The next day he was hoping for an early day, so I slept in, and let my DIL study as she is still working on her degree, and then she had to go to work in the afternoon, so I went to the base, had lunch, did some Christmas Shopping at the Exchange, and waited till he was released. Sitting there waiting, I got to see a unit returning from the field.





As well as his units equipment staged for their exercise.



So after he got off after 1530, we went home, he got a shower, and fell asleep till his wife got home from work. We then went out ad found this great little hole-in-the wall BBQ place right on the main drag in 29 Palms. Had to wait out side for a little bit to get in, but all the meat was being smoked and bbq'd right out front.. It was very good!! A little expensive for Cali, but still alot cheaper and alot better than Alaska!

After filling our tummy's we went home talked for a short bit, and then we all hit the hay, and got back up around 0930. Not much time left till I had to leave for the Airport, but we got dressed, I packed, and loaded up, and we went out to Joshua Tree park. It was quite windy, but very sunny and very unique! I had never been there before, so we drove around for awhile, and eventually stopped at a trail, and went for a short walk to an old Mine.





















First stop after Joshua Tree park was a stop in Joshua Tree for lunch, and then I dropped them off back home in 29 Palms.
After a heart tugging good by, since they could not come home for Christmas, I drove to Palm Springs to catch my flight. Leaving Palm Springs at 70F and arriving Saturday night in Anchorage to a brisk 6F, and an overnight low of -8F. Our friends picked me up, and brought me back to the house. I had left the electric heater on low, and the camper was a warm 46F compared to the 6F outside. I kicked on the furnace, and in 15 minutes the camper was back up to a toasty 69F. I crawled into bed, and got up the next morning to more snow.







Fired up the truck, and got everything broomed off, and warmed up to start the drive back down to Homer.



I stopped along the highway near Bird Creek to take pictures of the Turnagain and of the Icy Cliffs















The rest of the roads to just before Girdwood were bare and dry with patches of compact snow and ice. Where it starts to level out by Girdwood, the entire highway turned into a solid sheet of glare ice, polished smooth by the wind and the traffic. Cars were off the road every which way. Fortunately with the studs and the weight of the camper and teh plow, I just slowed down and took it easy. Stopping in Girdwood for more Coffee and some pastries from a new bakery there, it was back on the road. At the bottom of Turnagain pass, the ice gave way to more compact snow and ice, which was broken and much better for traction.







As I climbed Turnagain Pass the scenery with the fresh show and the frozen Ice Fog were incredibly beautiful.









This is the pull out at the summit of Turnagain Pass. It was incredibly beautiful, but the temps were dropping fast. It was back into the single digits here.





Not many truckers run in the winter in this part of Alaska, but there are a few!



But lots of "Sled-Heads" as they call themselves...



And here is Kenai Lake all froze over.







I found that if I ran down the highway with the plow angled, the truck performed better and my fuel use was lowered. But boy does that 8.5 foot plow with additional wings stick out alot!!



At the Cooper Landing Boat Ramp, the launch was open but snow covered and very icy!!







A few shops were open during the off season in Cooper Landing, but it was very cold!





The river looked especially frigid!



Because it was so cold as I came into Soldotna and Kenai, (-14F) i had been keeping the Furnace on low set to 45F in the camper. This created a cool icing design on the camper.





I picked up a live tree in Kenai, and had dinner in Soldotna, and refueled both gas and Propane. Unfortunately when I arrived in Home, i found that the regulator had froze up along the way after filling up the bottle. Another lesson learned, that if I need the furnace, I may have to insulate the bottle storage area a little bit to keep this from happening. The camper was down to 38F at this point, but I was in Homer, and getting ready to board the ferry, where the propane is shut off anyway.

This is what the Homer Spit looks like in the winter... The marina is to the right, and the restrooms are straight ahead. The famous bars are right behind me...







The ferry ride was fairly non-eventful, though it was cold and had to stop in Port Lions and Ouzinki (Native villages on or near Kodiak.)

I have a few more pics of that, but have to get back to them later.

Hope you all enjoyed!!
Garry
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper