Timbrens vs. Sumos.....
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โMar-21-2022 12:16 PM
I would like to add something in the rear since I had good luck with airbags in past trucks and campers. I am looking at Sumo Springs vs Timbrens. (which appear to be simpler than airbags)- Anyone have and advice on which one is better?) Just looking for some load stabilization and leveling.
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โMar-25-2022 08:06 AM
Boomerweps wrote:
Just installed the Sumo springs on my 2019 F150.
My research led me to believe Timbrens are great if you have a really heavy load hauled often but are too solid for daily driving unloaded.
I really didnโt want the hassle of air bag adjusting for my relatively light Travel Trailer, plus the Sumos are an easy install. My jounce bumper replacement bracket had a hole and bolt to add that the poly Sumo screws on to. Tack welding that in to the bracket would be a good thing. While the install procedure said to jack up the truck on the frame for an easier install, it was easy enough to do on a flat garage floor.
No change in daily driving. Have yet to haul a heavy load or pull my camper after the install.
I've had Timbrens on my 2015 since I bought the truck new and there's no discernable difference in the unloaded ride. I've got a bit less than an inch of a gap between the Timberns and axle. When I'm loaded up they are in contact with the axle and they have a nice settled ride. I can imagine that Timbrens might be a bit more abrupt on a half ton where you've got a softer suspension that allows more slapping, so to speak.
For under $200 and zero maintenance or fiddling, the Timbrens have been fantastic in my experience. I see no advantage to airbags in my application.
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โMar-23-2022 07:17 AM
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โMar-22-2022 10:20 AM
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โMar-22-2022 09:38 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:fj12ryder wrote:
Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.
100% agree! Better yet get a truck that will do what you want.
Lots of conceit oozing out of that statementโฆ.typical.
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โMar-22-2022 09:15 AM
My research led me to believe Timbrens are great if you have a really heavy load hauled often but are too solid for daily driving unloaded.
I really didnโt want the hassle of air bag adjusting for my relatively light Travel Trailer, plus the Sumos are an easy install. My jounce bumper replacement bracket had a hole and bolt to add that the poly Sumo screws on to. Tack welding that in to the bracket would be a good thing. While the install procedure said to jack up the truck on the frame for an easier install, it was easy enough to do on a flat garage floor.
No change in daily driving. Have yet to haul a heavy load or pull my camper after the install.
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โMar-22-2022 02:55 AM
fj12ryder wrote:
Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.
Airbags are certainly an option but yes, it can get much simpler.
Put a set of sumos on...one bolt off, one bolt on...done.
Now they can't be adjusted like an airbag but there is also nothing to fail.
Unlike the timbrens, they are progressive, meaning when they first contact, they apply a relatively small force per inch of compression and then ramp up, this avoids the really bad jarring when they do contact.
We have them on an F250 and there is about an inch of travel before they contact...I can't tell the difference driving around empty but they take some of the sag out when heavily loaded.
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โMar-22-2022 02:49 AM
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โMar-21-2022 09:46 PM
fj12ryder wrote:
Why not stick with what has worked in the past? It's tough to get much simpler than air bags. JMO of course.
100% agree! Better yet get a truck that will do what you want.
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โMar-21-2022 07:45 PM
huskyfan68 wrote:
Back to towing travel trailer with 09 F150 with the 5.4
I would like to add something in the rear since I had good luck with airbags in past trucks and campers. I am looking at Sumo Springs vs Timbrens. (which appear to be simpler than airbags)- Anyone have and advice on which one is better?) Just looking for some load stabilization and leveling.
Repost your question regarding a 1/2 ton truck. HD 3/4 or one ton trucks don't help with the OP with his F150 question.
I have the black Sumo's on the wife '16 1500 chevy 4wd short bed truck for pulling my 10k car hauler/7200 lb blue tractor/7' Rhino mower. Make around 9200 lbs on the trailers axles. I load the tractor till about 1040-1100 lbs on the trucks rear axle depending on where I place the tractor.
Even with new Bilsteins the truck had more pogo sticking than I wanted with a WD hitch/friction bars or without. Not even a hint of pogo stickin' now.
I got them from etrailer at their recommendation per my combo use. On the chevy just take the 13mm bolt out of the bump stop and bolt the Sumo plate adapter to that spot. The adapter has a threaded stud pointing down. Spin the Sumo on and its ready to go. To remove the Sumo... jack the back of the truck up about a inch and spin the Sumo off. Install the OEM bump stop with the 13mm bolt. Takes me about 3 min to make the change.
I've used Timbrens but not on a 1/2 ton truck.
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โMar-21-2022 05:23 PM
I tried Timbrens on my current Ram 1500. It was a jarring mistake. I took them back off within a week. Sumo Springs come in two strengths I think. I would opt for the softer one.
Right now I'm considering air bags. Fairly simple install and adjustability are both plusses.
JMHO
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