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Trip report: The TC fools (The Bros) do Anza

jefe_4x4
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A very few places in my life have had such a magnetic appeal, and storied history as does The Anza Borrego Desert State Park and environs in Southern California. My first trip there in 1965 was with my new bride, Judy, in our four wheel drive 1949 Jeep Ute Wagon. She died of Hodgkin's Disease in 1967. We were able to go down Coyote Creek, AKA, The Anza Trail, through the willows and mud well before it was closed off to vehicular traffic. We then proceeded to the jewel of the area; the Fish Creek/Split Mountain drainage. It has several narrow canyons that beg to be explored. Jump ahead 53 years and after dozens of trips to the area, Jeanie and I plug in with my brother John and Krys. John is a reformed world class rock racer and won the very first "King of the Hammers" off-road race in California. That's in the past now, but he still has his tow vehicle, a 1999 Ford LB F-250/Camper package diesel/6 speed manual pickup with a 9.5 foot OUTFITTER!

He is now a world class rock race rig fabricator.
We had 10 days to play with and Jeanie and I left the West Slope of the Sierra Nevada in a terrific rainstorm that lasted the whole 450 miles to our first stop: Bro John's rancho in Agua Dulce. We spent the 1st night in the TC in his back driveway.

We left John's place about mid morning in order to miss the miserable traffic that shows up every morning and picked our way south on these freeways: 14, I-5, 210, 57, 71, 91, I-15, south to Temecula where we finally headed out toward actual desert and away from megalopolis. We drove into Borrego Springs in early afternoon, noshed and fueled up once more then headed toward 'the slot' a local landmark with a tight walking trail at the bottom of the slot.


This is a spot where you do not want to be a full size TC-er.
We proceeded to mouth of Fish Creek/Split Mountain area and up the canyon to make the left turn up Sandstone Canyon.



It got pretty tight in there, but from previous trips we knew there was a turnaround.






We turned around here: Faux Bucket won't take my vids, so this one's from my dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0j10uxr4sn8jrx/end%20Sandstone%20Cyn%20Anza.m4v?dl=0

On we went up Fish Creek toward the "DropOff" not be confused with the sand hill called, Diablo Drop Off. It got very tricky so we turned around and headed for our first Anza camp along Fish Creek.



Our tire pressure was @ 30 pounds since the pavement ended:

Some of you might wonder about the Wild Flower Bloom this year in Anza: pretty much a bust: This was about it:



Not much chlorophyl here:


The next morning we headed for the faint trail leading to the bottom of the dreaded Diablo Drop Off, a 300 foot high sand hill with deep mogols near the top. I do have a history with this hill. In 1988, in my first trip with my new-to-me 1982 CJ-8, I put the hubs in and tried the hill with full tire pressure, in low range, 3rd gear, which suddenly grenaded about half way up. The Jeep T-4's 3rd gear was the size of an oreo cookie and was promptly replaced with a Ford NP-435 transmission after we limped home. Jeanie was not enthusiastic about repeating the epoch fail of the CJ-8, but Bro John assuaged her saying he could fix anything that broke. The trail was hard to find and once we did, a Jeep Club was coming down the trail against us in the narrow wash.
They all moved out of the way clinging to the walls to let the seemingly behemoth machines pass. Most of them had big smiles on their faces thinking, "These guys are crazy". Here's a vid of a set of mogols near the base of the sand hill:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xg1lwe92448ry7z/Mogols%20at%20great%20sand%20hill%20Anza.m4v?dl=0
And, here is the proof that we made it up the Diablo Drop Off:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bfj5y93wsd7vfkw/jefe%20does%20sand%20hill%20at%20dry%20wash%20of%20the%20devil%20Anza.m4v?dl=0
John tried it first with 30 pounds in his skinny little grave diggers and dug that grave about half way up. Once back at the bottom he lowered the pressure to 20 pounds and chose 4th/low range instead of 3rd/low range as being too slow without enough momentum. He then made it up. Taking his lead, I lowered the pressure in my tires to 20 pounds and used 4th/low range to crest the obstacle. Near the top you encounter some large mogols so a quick drop to 2nd gear was in order. You'll see that on the vid. Here we are going out the in for the Diablo Drop Off into the Arroyo Secco del Diablo (dry wash of the Devil):

We then proceeded up some other washes (arroyos), namely June:

Where I got my axles twisted up, big time,


It was time to head for another campsite:


We had lots of firewood along and the approved metal fire box (aka a washing machine tub with 3 legs) Jeanie and I are enjoying a famous Mexican adult beverage at the moment.

We went deeper south to a place called Dos Cabesas, a water stop on the ill-faded San Diego and Arizona Eastern railroad.

and on a loading platform found this:


Getting across the tracks we drove further south toward the spring that fed the water tank at Dos Cabesas. It is in an area with huge rocks, some the size of a school bus. There are 2 rock formations that look like heads in silhouette.




This may have been our favorite camp. Lots of space: beautiful surroundings with birds and wildlife.



petroglyphs:


outside shower pop tent:


The only woe was getting genie back in the bottle, so to speak. We worked a while folding it up according to the terrible directions.

Finally, Bro John came over and said we need to make it fold into 3 circles and that solved the riddle.
We explored other canyons some that had indigenous palm trees:



On the way out, we came across a woman in a 2WD mini pickup stuck to the frame. We got around her and winched the stuck rig back around the way she came. Vid:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1erpumhsa74j5l/winching%20in%20Anza.m4v?dl=0

Lots of roads that looked like this;


This is the scene up Pinion Wash on our last camp before heading home:






This was a great trip, the best ever to Anza with people I love, and I got to use the winch to boot.
regards, as always, jefe
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar
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jefe_4x4
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Robert,
We're going to be there in early-ish spring, so flash floods are not much of a threat.
jefe
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RobertRyan
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Would be probably worried about flash floods you have similar ravines in Australia

Eugarps
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Jefe,

I always enjoy tagging along on your adventures. Once again, a great trip report.
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1320Fastback
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I always take my local desert for granted even though it's only a hour away. Great pics and great report!
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jefe_4x4
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Yep, that's our final campsite last March. It looks a lot greener in your pix.
If you want to be alone, this is a good hideaway in Anza.
Bro John and I with our ladies are putting another sojourn together; this time 12 days' worth in and around Canyonlands N.P. in Utah. Some of the highlights will be Elephant Hill, The squeeze (missing the overhang), Beef Basin, Devil's Kitchen, Horse Hoof Camp, Lockhart Basin and Hurrah Pass. Some of this is hard core. If we can get a permit, The White Rim Trail is also on the docket. You Tube has some interesting vids of pickups testing their junk here.
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar

anutami
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Jefe,

Glad this was brought back to the top!!!

Thought of you over New Years while camped in our favorite spot and didn’t see a single person.

Recognize the location?


And the perspective of our friends in the six pac
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You guys are doing it right!
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mountainkowboy
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Cool trip....Red and the S&S would never have made it.
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capeman
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Thanks for your posting. Great pics !

Camp_woof
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The videos are great too, I get to pucker up just sitting at my desk! Thanks for sharing.

jefe_4x4
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Anu wrote: "I am amazed how well your rig had very little sway, and non existent slippage." A: The True Tracs and 20 pounds of air will increase the floatation and tractive effort. I had the new Rancho 9K's on the stiffest setting, and by the looks of the vid, I need an additional pair of rear shocks, which I've been contemplating for a long time. Don't underestimate the anti sway of having all the heavy stuff down low and tight new grommets on my rear anti sway bar. The twisting up of the axles allowed per the vids is a lot more than I suspected, but limited by the 3" lift on the front as the control arms are already aiming downhill and don't have much travel compared to stock. Another issue is I think the travel of the front shocks is not as far as the suspension will allow, causing a wheel to momentarily hang in air.
Q: "Do the cabover struts/braces offer much support?"
A: Not really. I don't think 15 years old struts have much left in them anyway, but I never reached the outer limit on the strut's travel. The fact is my 20 year old camper has live for 15 years, full time, more or less on the bed of the truck, and there is a lot of settling of all the 'attaching and holding up' parts of the truck making it fit like an old shoe.
Q: "How loose were your rear tie downs? Or is it more about the truck and tires?" A: I did not do much adjusting of the tie downs this trip, because when you have the suspension dialed in, and lower the pressure things have a tendency to smooth out. Going that long, fairly steeply uphill, I worry that the camper could just "slip out the back, Jack", (according to the Paul Simon song, 50 ways to leave your lover)
Q: "It also appears the moto cross folk were not street legal and had no business even looking on as you took the drop off." A: The motorcycles were led by someone who has already climbed the beast, but his attempt in front of his compatriots failed about 3/4 of the way up and he had to recede down the mountain. Most of the people looking on were slack jawed that someone would try this sand hill in a 10K pound rig, and one guy said, "I've never seen that before." But, there is always more to the story and it's not about luck. I'm thinking Bro John's (who has the same model truck you do) and my 50 years of hard core jeeping and off roading sets the stage for finding the edge of what is do-able and what isn't. It's all those sticky little issues like air down and airing up: how much and how fast. When I don' go hard-core TC-ing for a couple months, I loose my 'edge' with the 'road feel' and where the edge actually is. In the depths of Sandstone Canyon, Anza:

So, thanks again for your interest in our little sojourn.
jefe
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar

anutami
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Jefe, I am truly blown away by your trip report. I don’t think fellow truck campers realize how prepared your rig is, and how special the ground you covered was. Thanks again for taking me through the terrain I frequent but the areas I would never consider going you took head on. I am amazed how well your rig had very little sway, and non existent slippage. Do the cabover struts/braces offer much support? How loose were your rear tie downs? Or is it more about the truck and tires? It also appears the moto cross folk were not street legal and had no business even looking on as you took the drop off. A lot has changed since we lost ranger Steve who patrolled fish creek. I would guesstimate you covered approximately 60 miles of the total 500 miles of Jeep trails anza has to offer of all of which your rig has access to. Thanks for your time, energy, expense and passion for your trip report.
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GoinThisAway
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I can see why you like that area. If it were close to me I might have a smaller rig too 😉 Thanks for sharing the story and photos.
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jefe_4x4
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Thanks again for all your good cheer. Bro John is talking now about doing Canyonlands...I mean taking the TC's into the park over Elephant Hill. We've done it a few times in jeeps, but not in TC's. Anyone done this before? The only woe I can see is overhead clearance. 1971: '66 Toy FJ-40 @ '67 Ford Bronco/302. That 3 yr. old toe head is now 49.

and the obligatory 'stuck to the frame in quicksand' in Salt Creek.

jefe
'01.5 Dodge 2500 4x4, CTD, Qcab, SB, NV5600, 241HD, 4.10's, Dana 70/TruTrac; Dana 80/ TruTrac, Spintec hub conversion, H.D. susp, 315/75R16's on 7.5" and 10" wide steel wheels, Vulcan big line, Warn M15K winch '98 Lance Lite 165s, 8' 6" X-cab, 200w Solar