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Used 2011 F350 6.7. Do I need to purchase warranty?

F5Pro
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Looking at used 2011 F350 power stroke crew cab to pull my travel trailer. Vehicle has 95k miles. What is the opinion of the forum as to the benefit of an extended warranty for this truck?
Okay. It is not a factory extended warranty. It is an aftermarket insurance policy that covers the turbo and the HPFP, but not the radiator. While I have enough money to buy an '11, I do not have enough to buy a '15-20 without going into debt, which I am trying to avoid.
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Cummins12V98
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FISH knows!
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blofgren
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
librty02 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"And RAM is now using the CP4 also...as of 2019"

Cummins decided to let Ford work all the bugs out before going to the CP4. :B


Don't we all wish the CP4 could be considered reliable


I am hoping they are now for everyones sake!


I have seen at least one claim of a grenaded CP4 in a 6.7L Cummins so I'm thinking there's still an issue with them. That said, I think it was posted by Fish! :B
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Cummins12V98
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librty02 wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
"And RAM is now using the CP4 also...as of 2019"

Cummins decided to let Ford work all the bugs out before going to the CP4. :B


Don't we all wish the CP4 could be considered reliable


I am hoping they are now for everyones sake!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

librty02
Explorer
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
"And RAM is now using the CP4 also...as of 2019"

Cummins decided to let Ford work all the bugs out before going to the CP4. :B


Don't we all wish the CP4 could be considered reliable
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Cummins12V98
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"And RAM is now using the CP4 also...as of 2019"

Cummins decided to let Ford work all the bugs out before going to the CP4. :B
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

librty02
Explorer
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FishOnOne wrote:
Retired JSO wrote:
blofgren wrote:
OP, the die-hard Blue Oval fans will likely roast me for this, but the 2011 6.7L had several teething pains, some of them quite serious. If you are set on a Ford, go for a 2015 and up (or a good old 7.3L), but be aware that the high pressure fuel pump failure potential is valid for all 6.7L Fords. Some will tell you it's rare, but it truly sucks if it happens to you. At my work, we have a lot of Fords and have gone mostly with gas engines, and it's not because of the initial purchase price......Flame suit on! :B

I understand that GM and Ford HD diesels use the CP4 Bosch High Pressure Pump.


GM switched to a Denso fuel system.


And RAM is now using the CP4 also...as of 2019
2011 FORD F-150 FX4 CREW CAB ECO...
2018 Ford F-150 Max Tow Crew 6.5 3.5 Eco...
2013 Keystone Passport 2650BH, EQUAL-I-ZER 1K/10K

Grit_dog
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FishOnOne wrote:


This is simply a kit of all the required parts to replace a fuel system. By ordering this single part # is a lot cheaper than ordering these parts individually. It tells me that Ford is trying to make this process to replace a fuel system cheaper and quicker.

I simply pasted a link to this kit to address the internet amplification some here like to taunt towards a specific brand.

Cummins offers a complete long block replacement engine under a part #. Does that mean cummins admits they have a major issue with their engines?


After looking up a dealer price for injectors and cp4, they are more reasonably priced than I had initially thought. 8 injectors and a new pump is $3k (with online dealer, discount from "list" price).
Actually this kit seems like a good deal and I presume based on the individual prices, it contains new, not reman, parts.
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blofgren
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FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
LanceRKeys wrote:
I say put $5,000 in the bank and call that your warranty.
Good plan But a HPFP failure can run 15,000.00

Better up the savings some.


It's more like $8,000.

OP,
I have a '12 truck and choose not to get an extended warranty and it was the right choice.


Your price is low Fish. Dog was right on the money. And this was in Texas. Maybe you get the cuz discount? :B
I have never seen a report of 8K... Every one has been over 10K. 15K at the top end

And I have seen a lot of them.
Not saying it hasn't happened.... But that would be really cheap.

And when it happens, you probably will not be in a postion to shop around.


Are we selling Ocean Front Property in Arizona again... :B

Ford offers a fuel system replacement kit that cost's less than purchasing all the parts separately that cost ~$3,300 for all the parts except for a $70 fuel filter. That leaves an easy ~$5,000 for labor. In addition some independent shops are now doing it for even less than what I stated.

Ford Fuel System Kit


Is this kit really considered good, Fish? It tells me that Ford knows there’s a major issue with the CP4. JMHO...


This is simply a kit of all the required parts to replace a fuel system. By ordering this single part # is a lot cheaper than ordering these parts individually. It tells me that Ford is trying to make this process to replace a fuel system cheaper and quicker.

I simply pasted a link to this kit to address the internet amplification some here like to taunt towards a specific brand.

Cummins offers a complete long block replacement engine under a part #. Does that mean cummins admits they have a major issue with their engines?


Good grief, Fish.......keep your head buried in the sand I guess...:S
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FishOnOne
Nomad
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Retired JSO wrote:
blofgren wrote:
OP, the die-hard Blue Oval fans will likely roast me for this, but the 2011 6.7L had several teething pains, some of them quite serious. If you are set on a Ford, go for a 2015 and up (or a good old 7.3L), but be aware that the high pressure fuel pump failure potential is valid for all 6.7L Fords. Some will tell you it's rare, but it truly sucks if it happens to you. At my work, we have a lot of Fords and have gone mostly with gas engines, and it's not because of the initial purchase price......Flame suit on! :B

I understand that GM and Ford HD diesels use the CP4 Bosch High Pressure Pump.


GM switched to a Denso fuel system.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Retired_JSO
Explorer
Explorer
blofgren wrote:
OP, the die-hard Blue Oval fans will likely roast me for this, but the 2011 6.7L had several teething pains, some of them quite serious. If you are set on a Ford, go for a 2015 and up (or a good old 7.3L), but be aware that the high pressure fuel pump failure potential is valid for all 6.7L Fords. Some will tell you it's rare, but it truly sucks if it happens to you. At my work, we have a lot of Fords and have gone mostly with gas engines, and it's not because of the initial purchase price......Flame suit on! :B

I understand that GM and Ford HD diesels use the CP4 Bosch High Pressure Pump.

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
LanceRKeys wrote:
I say put $5,000 in the bank and call that your warranty.
Good plan But a HPFP failure can run 15,000.00

Better up the savings some.


It's more like $8,000.

OP,
I have a '12 truck and choose not to get an extended warranty and it was the right choice.


Your price is low Fish. Dog was right on the money. And this was in Texas. Maybe you get the cuz discount? :B
I have never seen a report of 8K... Every one has been over 10K. 15K at the top end

And I have seen a lot of them.
Not saying it hasn't happened.... But that would be really cheap.

And when it happens, you probably will not be in a postion to shop around.


Are we selling Ocean Front Property in Arizona again... :B

Ford offers a fuel system replacement kit that cost's less than purchasing all the parts separately that cost ~$3,300 for all the parts except for a $70 fuel filter. That leaves an easy ~$5,000 for labor. In addition some independent shops are now doing it for even less than what I stated.

Ford Fuel System Kit


Is this kit really considered good, Fish? It tells me that Ford knows there’s a major issue with the CP4. JMHO...


This is simply a kit of all the required parts to replace a fuel system. By ordering this single part # is a lot cheaper than ordering these parts individually. It tells me that Ford is trying to make this process to replace a fuel system cheaper and quicker.

I simply pasted a link to this kit to address the internet amplification some here like to taunt towards a specific brand.

Cummins offers a complete long block replacement engine under a part #. Does that mean cummins admits they have a major issue with their engines?
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Grit_dog
Navigator
Navigator
^ Yeah, whats the deal there?
Either the Fomoco Contamination "kit" is being offered at about 50% goodwill to all the poor folks whose CP4 ate itself and barfed into the injectors, or the injectors and pump are re-man (likely why the $1500 core charge, so they can send out more goodwill kits and still make a buck off them).
Great business plan, rather than offering a bypass kit with it, you can cycle through even more cheap reman parts....Henry would be proud!

Something's rotten in Denmark here and it aint the cheese! Unless Fomoco turned 501c when we weren't looking!

If there's more to it, I'm keenly interested, because I've never gotten a bargain at the dealer for parts. Maybe I should start driving more Fords....
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2017 Heartland Torque T29 - Sold.
Couple of Arctic Fox TCs - Sold

blofgren
Explorer
Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Huntindog wrote:
LanceRKeys wrote:
I say put $5,000 in the bank and call that your warranty.
Good plan But a HPFP failure can run 15,000.00

Better up the savings some.


It's more like $8,000.

OP,
I have a '12 truck and choose not to get an extended warranty and it was the right choice.


Your price is low Fish. Dog was right on the money. And this was in Texas. Maybe you get the cuz discount? :B
I have never seen a report of 8K... Every one has been over 10K. 15K at the top end

And I have seen a lot of them.
Not saying it hasn't happened.... But that would be really cheap.

And when it happens, you probably will not be in a postion to shop around.


Are we selling Ocean Front Property in Arizona again... :B

Ford offers a fuel system replacement kit that cost's less than purchasing all the parts separately that cost ~$3,300 for all the parts except for a $70 fuel filter. That leaves an easy ~$5,000 for labor. In addition some independent shops are now doing it for even less than what I stated.

Ford Fuel System Kit


Is this kit really considered good, Fish? It tells me that Ford knows there’s a major issue with the CP4. JMHO...
2013 Ram 3500 Megacab DRW Laramie 4x4, 6.7L Cummins, G56, 3.73, Maximum Steel, black lthr, B&W RVK3670 hitch, Retrax, Linex, and a bunch of options incl. cargo camera
2008 Corsair Excella Platinum 34.5 CKTS fifth wheel with winter package & disc brakes

StirCrazy
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