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Yellowstone National Park questions

Noob_RVer
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Hi,

I am a newbie at RV'ing, have a 19' hybrid travel trailer and heading to Yellowstone in fall of 2018. Never been to Yellowstone and not finding a lot of help from our local RV sales shops in the area. I have a few questions for anyone that has been there with a similar type RV. Appreciate your help!!

1. Is Xanterra super strict on size? I have a 19' TT and a 19' F150. If I add the TT tongue and hitch on truck, likely to be almost 1' foot over the max 40' site size. Can I take hitch off and pull as close to tongue as possible?

2. Do people really use Generators to charge their batteries? If yes, is there a loud 'hum' throughout the campground? Also, do people steal generators while owners are out enjoying the sites?

3. In general, is it just better to stay outside of the park with an RV?

again, thanks for your help in advance!
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vjstangelo
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Even though it doesnโ€™t have power, Madison is my favorite. The scenery and river are beautiful. We love sitting in the Firehole, like sitting in a hot tub.
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bikendan
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memtb wrote:
Soft sided units are not allowed in some areas of the park.....some people are allergic to โ€œgrizzly biteโ€! ?? Something to be considered anywhere in NW Wyoming or western Montana. Bears of both species enjoy sharing your meals with you....canvas is an โ€œopen doorโ€ policy to a hungry bear!


From what I know, Fishing Bridge is the only YNP campground(that a RV can fit in)that bans soft sided campers.
Mammoth, Madison, Canyon, Bridge Bay, Grant all allow them.
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memtb
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Soft sided units are not allowed in some areas of the park.....some people are allergic to โ€œgrizzly biteโ€! ?? Something to be considered anywhere in NW Wyoming or western Montana. Bears of both species enjoy sharing your meals with you....canvas is an โ€œopen doorโ€ policy to a hungry bear!
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RGar974417
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We stayed at Madison in May 2016. We had a generator. Most were quite ones like ours,a Honda. Not very noticeable.The park is big,about the size of Rhode Island. We came across a mother grizzly and 3 cubs on the road between Norris and Canyon. Would suggest eating at the Inn at Old Faithfull. The lobby is beautiful, the food is good and the prices are reasonable.

richardcoxid
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Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)

Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking and there are passes on the grand loop road that are close to 8000 ft or so! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.

I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until about 9:30- 9:45 PM then there is a long twilight.

Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty to non-existent!

Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is shiny black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.

Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water! HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas only have pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line (2 rest rooms) at the lower Geyser Basin 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area! I.e. โ€œNever pass up a flush toilet!โ€

Sun- At YSNP altitude the Sun is intense (uv)have and apply sunscreen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear Sunglasses!

If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10 to 15 minutes wait for the next one. Tour tour the O/F Geyser basin while waiting. O/F INN is a must see, reportedly the largest LOG building in the U.S. (Meals in the O/F dinning room are โ€œOKโ€ also.

We have lived about 110 miles from West Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go to YSNP 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all yet! So donโ€™t be discouraged that you didnโ€™t have the time to see all of it. Just plan on coming back another time!

I honestly donโ€™t mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 million visitors in 2015! As far as I know we didnโ€™t lose one of them. Except those who by their own stupidity step off the board walks into BOILING HOT water and ignoring the warnings about the WILD ANIMALS! That is called purifying the gene pool!Early in the summer of 2017 a foreign visitor stepped off a boardwalk into just a few inches of hot water. He walked about 100 yards (according to the newspaper) broke thru the crust and parboiled himself. The park service decided not to try to retrieve the body! Between the temperature of the water and the acidity of it the body would just fall apart when retrieving it, as well as being dangerous to the rangers. Of course a few Bison fall in every winter also.

Note I have seen on this blog and others about folks โ€œday trippingโ€ from YSNP to GTNP, it is done all the time (myself included) however remember this is BIG country and with the speed limits, animals and thermal attractions you will NOT come close to a 60- 65 MPH average. From the West Thumb Area, Grant Village Visitor Center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way then from Grant Village you have to add the distance to your CG it will be a Long days trip!

A point of Coulter Bay (in GTNP) clarification- there are two (2) CGโ€™s at Coulter Bay, One, the โ€œCoulter Bay RV Parkโ€ a full service โ€œRV Parkโ€ with FHUโ€™S that takes reservations. The other is the โ€œCoulter Bay Campground โ€œ has no hookups and doesnโ€™t take reservations. Both have about 300 sites and are located basically across the road from each other.

Also in GTNP be sure to see Jenny Lake, the water is swimming pool clear! You almost feel like you are in space when you are on the boat dock and you can see the rental boat shadows on the bottom of the lake!

When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/ TABLE SEATING ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice". If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pads to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website.

http://www.barjchuckwagon.com

Also in Jackson check out the โ€œCOWBOYโ€ bar, the bar stools are saddles and check out the # of Silver Dollars imbedded in the bar. The Wort Hotel Bar (just around the corner from the Cowboy Bar) also has Silver Dollars imbedded in the Bar
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Dick_B
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Two suggestions: 1. Search this Forum for `Yellowstone' and, 2, read the book `Tracking the spirit of Yellowstone' by a former ranger. He claims that there are parts of Yellowstone that has never seen Man!
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bikendan
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jules6 wrote:
There are no hybrid rv's allowed at Fishing Bridge campground


they will allow a hybrid TT there, IF the OP "turtles" in the hybrid.
that means not deploying the canvas tent ends and sleeping on the dinette and sofa, like a smaller TT.
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2gypsies1
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Here are photos of the campsites at Canyon:

https://www.campsitephotos.com/campground/wy/yellowstone-canyon/
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Beverley_Ken
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" 19' hybrid travel trailer and heading to Yellowstone in fall of 2018". What time month? We were there in the 3rd week of August a few years ago and the overnight temperatures were about 30 degrees. You would probably need lots of propane and battery, especially with the bunk ends open. It would be warmer and use less energy if you sleep on the couch or dinette with the bunk ends closed.

As for length, check to see that includes the tow vehicle or just the RV / trailer. Many length limits are meant for the RV trailer, not including the tow vehicle.

Also check for potential for snow and whether or not campgrounds in the park are available for your time. To me Fall is late September, Oct and Nov.

Ken
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linnemj
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I use my generator only when I am on the site. Usually run for awhile in the morning when generator hours start and then when I return to my trailer in the evening. Other than that, it is locked in the bed of my truck. I would advise not leaving them at your site, even chained to the trailer. Someone can start your granny and quickly cut the chain or handle.

If possible have two batteries in your trailer. This will provide a good level of battery power overnight.
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Noob_RVer
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Thanks All for your responses.

We have a campsite in Canyon reserved. I know they allow generators, but, thought if I chain it up to the trailer while gone, it may be safe?

My main concern is that they don't turn me away at the gate due to being 40'8" or even 41'. The people at Xanterra could not give me a straight answer. One person was pretty helpful and said I could just take my hitch off and back as close to the tongue of the trailer. That is why I was asking if anyone else had run into that.

Thanks again!

jules6
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There are no hybrid rv's allowed at Fishing Bridge campground

agesilaus
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Noob_RVer wrote:
Hi,

I am a newbie at RV'ing, have a 19' hybrid travel trailer and heading to Yellowstone in fall of 2018. Never been to Yellowstone and not finding a lot of help from our local RV sales shops in the area. I have a few questions for anyone that has been there with a similar type RV. Appreciate your help!!

1. Is Xanterra super strict on size? I have a 19' TT and a 19' F150. If I add the TT tongue and hitch on truck, likely to be almost 1' foot over the max 40' site size. Can I take hitch off and pull as close to tongue as possible?

should not be a problem, but make reservations RIGHT NOW

2. Do people really use Generators to charge their batteries? If yes, is there a loud 'hum' throughout the campground? Also, do people steal generators while owners are out enjoying the sites?

Yes but there are 'generator hours, often 8 AM to 8 PM

3. In general, is it just better to stay outside of the park with an RV?

No, its a long long slow drive in and out of the park. Plan on 60-90 minutes each way, maybe more depending on where you go. People drive at 20-30 mph and stop every time someone sees a chipmunk.

again, thanks for your help in advance!
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TenOC
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YS is VERY big. 50 miles from one key site to the next so a lot of people try to stay in the park.

I always stay at Baker's Hole (a NFS campground) a few miles north of West Yellowstone and do day trips into the park. A few times I have moved to the East or north-east side to NFS campgrounds.
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