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MAwolcott
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My wife and I are just a few years away from becoming full time RVers. We currently have an F150 with the eco boost and pull a 32 foot fifthwheel. I can tow 11,300 and the unit weighs about 7500 dry. We are considering going with a larger rig, but do to that will have to also move to a larger truck. My question is this: The 250 diesel does not show a 3.73 rear end. The 3.55 rear end has a max tow of 15,100. If our new rig weighs out around 12,000, with all of our stuff loaded in it, it will probably be around the 15000 range ( I assume). Will the 250 be enough to tow that all across the country, or should we be looking at the massive 350 dually?
Mike & Amy
USN ADCS (AW) Retired
2016 F350 DRW FX4 Lariat.
2017 Montana 3791RD
2013 Cougar 28SGS (sold)
2008 Pilgrim 272PBH (sold)
2006 Summit TT (sold)
Pop-up (sold)
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avvidclif1
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wing_zealot wrote:
Jim-Linda wrote:
MAwolcott wrote:
My wife and I are just a few years away from becoming full time RVers. We currently have an F150 with the eco boost and pull a 32 foot fifthwheel. I can tow 11,300 and the unit weighs about 7500 dry. We are considering going with a larger rig, but do to that will have to also move to a larger truck. My question is this: The 250 diesel does not show a 3.73 rear end. The 3.55 rear end has a max tow of 15,100. If our new rig weighs out around 12,000, with all of our stuff loaded in it, it will probably be around the 15000 range ( I assume). Will the 250 be enough to tow that all across the country, or should we be looking at the massive 350 dually?


The 350 is far from "massive", except for the outer rear tires, the footprint, height,width and length is +- the same. Without knowing for sure the trailer specs you will be getting, go with the 350, you have never heard "I have too much truck".

Jim
Now you can officially say you have heard it

"I Have Too Much Truck".

I have a F-250 pulling a 7600 lbs GVWR trailer. Rides worse, gets worse fuel mileage, it is not parking lot friendly, and it overall costs more. If I had it to do over again I would get a better tool for the job. You Can Have Too Much Truck. It would be highly impractical to pull a popup with a class 8 diesel, so the theory that you can't have too much truck doesn't wash? Get the right tool for the job. Nothing more nothing less.


Get the right tool for the "Next" job. You got the tool now get the job....GRIN
Clif & Millie
2009 Ford F350 SRW CC Lariat 6.4 Diesel
2015 Heartland Cyclone HD CY3418 Toy Hauler

wing_zealot
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Jim-Linda wrote:
MAwolcott wrote:
My wife and I are just a few years away from becoming full time RVers. We currently have an F150 with the eco boost and pull a 32 foot fifthwheel. I can tow 11,300 and the unit weighs about 7500 dry. We are considering going with a larger rig, but do to that will have to also move to a larger truck. My question is this: The 250 diesel does not show a 3.73 rear end. The 3.55 rear end has a max tow of 15,100. If our new rig weighs out around 12,000, with all of our stuff loaded in it, it will probably be around the 15000 range ( I assume). Will the 250 be enough to tow that all across the country, or should we be looking at the massive 350 dually?


The 350 is far from "massive", except for the outer rear tires, the footprint, height,width and length is +- the same. Without knowing for sure the trailer specs you will be getting, go with the 350, you have never heard "I have too much truck".

Jim
Now you can officially say you have heard it

"I Have Too Much Truck".

I have a F-250 pulling a 7600 lbs GVWR trailer. Rides worse, gets worse fuel mileage, it is not parking lot friendly, and it overall costs more. If I had it to do over again I would get a better tool for the job. You Can Have Too Much Truck. It would be highly impractical to pull a popup with a class 8 diesel, so the theory that you can't have too much truck doesn't wash? Get the right tool for the job. Nothing more nothing less.

MAwolcott
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Explorer
Thanks for the messages from everyone. I am currently waiting on delivery of my new truck. It was supposed to be here on the 20th, but nothing yet! I went with the F350 SRW. Now after reading a bunch of threads, I'm hoping that will be enough! All the fifth wheels we have been looking at have a gross weight around 15,000 and a dry hitch weight of about 2500. The payload for my new truck is 4230 or so.
Mike & Amy
USN ADCS (AW) Retired
2016 F350 DRW FX4 Lariat.
2017 Montana 3791RD
2013 Cougar 28SGS (sold)
2008 Pilgrim 272PBH (sold)
2006 Summit TT (sold)
Pop-up (sold)

rhagfo
Explorer III
Explorer III
You should really be moving up now so you have two years of use to iron out the bugs. If you are 32' and 7,500# dry it is too light for full timing! We have a 32' 5er that is mid range, and is 9,820# dry with a GVWR of 12,360#.

Do yourself a BIG favor and get nothing smaller than a 350/3500 SRW, I can tell you are a Ford fan, but look at the other two, I was a Ford fan, but love my six cylinder Ram!
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

"Visit and Enjoy Oregon State Parks"

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
NMDriver wrote:
Remember with a 5er is it not the towing weight that will get you beyond your trucks capabilities it is the CARRYING capacity of the truck. That is why the 20% of Gross Weight is important since that is what will sit in the bed of the truck.

As mentioned you will always be happy with more truck-at least until you pay the fuel bill ๐Ÿ™‚


20% minimum! I am at 25% and more people are there than realize.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

NMDriver
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Remember with a 5er is it not the towing weight that will get you beyond your trucks capabilities it is the CARRYING capacity of the truck. That is why the 20% of Gross Weight is important since that is what will sit in the bed of the truck.

As mentioned you will always be happy with more truck-at least until you pay the fuel bill ๐Ÿ™‚
5er/2500Duramax/18ftBoat

shadows4
Explorer III
Explorer III
OP'er I believe for the size fifth wheel you are talking about you should be considering an SRW F350 at minimum. I think it is less than a thousand bucks more for a F350 vs a F250. But as previously stated if you go to the dually then you will have plenty of truck if you decide to go to a bigger fifth wheel.
2016 4X4 F350,CC,SB,Lariat,6.7L diesel,
2015 Coachmen Chapparal 324 TSRK
B&W Patriot 16K hitch.

weathershak
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Full timing it since July 2012

azrving
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I agree, 350/3500 is not massive but it is more capable of hauling a wider range of rigs. You may not want a drw but certainly consider a one ton.

NC_Hauler
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Do yourself a favor, when "calculating" how much you're going to tow...forget about "dry" or "empty" weight....no one tows a 5er "empty" or "dry" unless they're bringing it home from the dealership, Use the units GVW to figure what you're going to tow, especially if full timing. I believe you'll carry far more than you think you would....Take 20% of the units GVW and that'll give you a "ballpark" of how much pinweight you'll be putting in the bed of your truck....

I'd base what truck you're going to tow with when you figure out what 5er you plan on full timing in ......much easier task at that point.
Jim & Kathy, (Boxers, Buddy & Sheba)
2016 Ram 3500 DRW Longhorn 4X4/CC/LB/Aisin/4.10/rear air assist ...Pearl White.
2016 DRV MS 36RSSB3/ W&D/ slide toppers/ DTV satellite/ 5.5K Onan propane gen.
B&W RVK3600 Hitch
Fulltiming in WV & TX
USAF 71-75 Viet Nam Vet

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
If you want total confidence and a relaxing drive towing a TT with a dually is the way to go!

Another good reason is you WILL want something larger after full timing for a while and then you will have the truck to do it.

TT's have a tendency to sway on certain road conditions and with winds. More truck is always the way to go with a TT.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Jim-Linda
Explorer II
Explorer II
MAwolcott wrote:
My wife and I are just a few years away from becoming full time RVers. We currently have an F150 with the eco boost and pull a 32 foot fifthwheel. I can tow 11,300 and the unit weighs about 7500 dry. We are considering going with a larger rig, but do to that will have to also move to a larger truck. My question is this: The 250 diesel does not show a 3.73 rear end. The 3.55 rear end has a max tow of 15,100. If our new rig weighs out around 12,000, with all of our stuff loaded in it, it will probably be around the 15000 range ( I assume). Will the 250 be enough to tow that all across the country, or should we be looking at the massive 350 dually?


The 350 is far from "massive", except for the outer rear tires, the footprint, height,width and length is +- the same. Without knowing for sure the trailer specs you will be getting, go with the 350, you have never heard "I have too much truck".

Jim