Dec-07-2020 02:05 PM
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Dec-09-2020 07:53 AM
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Dec-09-2020 06:59 AM
TXiceman wrote:
Why keep bring up commercial law when it does not apply to private use of a light truck?
Ken
Dec-09-2020 06:52 AM
JIMNLIN wrote:Op says his door sticker states just over 2200 lbs of capacity. Old biscuit wrote the 5ers wet pin is/should be 3200 lbs. My guess the truck itself weighs around (don't recall seeing OP's set up) 8500. If that's the case, legally only has 1500 lb avail for extra being it's a 10,000 GVW truck. So assume for a moment we use OB's numbers along w/ an assumed truck weight. 8500 + 3200 = 11,700 which according to my fingers and tows puts him over the trucks GVW by 1,700 lbs. Shoot, that's actually over a 350's GVW of 11,500 by 200#.
The truck makers GVWR or a GVWR based payload or the GVWR payload sticker isn't used to determine a overloaded truck. Nor do we face lawsuits for exceeding the truck makers GVWR.
Lawsuits regarding exceeding the mfg GVWR....RV internet myth. It doesn't happen on the commercial side so why is it just someone pulling their rv trailer that faces law suits for exceeding a GVWR.
Any theories why ??
Having pulled commercially with LDT size trucks civil lawsuits do happen to those in this line of work that our overloaded truck/trailer caused a accident...but the vehicles GVWR isn't used to determine that overload condition.
Dec-09-2020 06:13 AM
JIMNLIN wrote:Op says his door sticker states just over 2200 lbs of capacity. Old biscuit wrote the 5ers wet pin is/should be 3200 lbs. My guess the truck itself weighs around (don't recall seeing OP's set up) 8500. If that's the case, legally only has 1500 lb avail for extra being it's a 10,000 GVW truck. So assume for a moment we use OB's numbers along w/ an assumed truck weight. 8500 + 3200 = 11,700 which according to my fingers and tows puts him over the trucks GVW by 1,700 lbs. Shoot, that's actually over a 350's GVW of 11,500 by 200#.
The truck makers GVWR or a GVWR based payload or the GVWR payload sticker isn't used to determine a overloaded truck. Nor do we face lawsuits for exceeding the truck makers GVWR.
Lawsuits regarding exceeding the mfg GVWR....RV internet myth. It doesn't happen on the commercial side so why is it just someone pulling their rv trailer that faces law suits for exceeding a GVWR.
Any theories why ??
Having pulled commercially with LDT size trucks civil lawsuits do happen to those in this line of work that our overloaded truck/trailer caused a accident...but the vehicles GVWR isn't used to determine that overload condition.
Dec-08-2020 06:06 PM
ACZL wrote:
Shoot, that's actually over a 350's GVW of 11,500 by 200#.
Dec-08-2020 04:57 PM
Dec-08-2020 03:26 PM
Dec-08-2020 03:20 PM
rdmotex3 wrote:Really? Just trying to make the most informed decision possible? Because you seemed to be informed why back on page one.
...I very much appreciate the discussion as I am trying to make the most informed decision possible.
rdmotex3 wrote:
...The sticker in the door says 2214? That mean I'm not even close. As I understand it my set up with a 3.31 axle could tow 14,100 but because of the pin weight of ~3,000# I would be over before I ever put it in drive?...
Dec-08-2020 11:57 AM
Lynnmor wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
My factory air bags are basically what supports my 6,000# pin and 9,750# RAW.
Your suspension is quite a bit different than a leaf spring setup with added aftermarket air bags. The leaf springs control not only vertical loads, but helps with side to side as well. Replacing soft leaf springs with stiffer helps a bit with control in all directions. I use air bags to restore height but I would change the leaves if a considerable amount of additional support is needed.
Dec-08-2020 10:17 AM
Op says his door sticker states just over 2200 lbs of capacity. Old biscuit wrote the 5ers wet pin is/should be 3200 lbs. My guess the truck itself weighs around (don't recall seeing OP's set up) 8500. If that's the case, legally only has 1500 lb avail for extra being it's a 10,000 GVW truck. So assume for a moment we use OB's numbers along w/ an assumed truck weight. 8500 + 3200 = 11,700 which according to my fingers and tows puts him over the trucks GVW by 1,700 lbs. Shoot, that's actually over a 350's GVW of 11,500 by 200#.
Dec-08-2020 09:59 AM
Dec-08-2020 08:07 AM
Cummins12V98 wrote:
My factory air bags are basically what supports my 6,000# pin and 9,750# RAW.
Dec-08-2020 07:58 AM