Towing Capability

[txbassmn]

Ok, wife has me doubting myself now, so here is the question. I have a 2013 F250 6.7L diesel FX4 and thinking about getting a 5th wheel. The one we are looking at is a Bay Hill 295 and dry weight is 10800#, pin weight of 2100#, and can have a gross weight of 14000#. I need to know if anyone thinks I would have a problem pulling this thing. Thank you for any help y'all could give me.

[AB_Spotman]

Back to the original post. On paper the the 3/4 will work...but if you are not careful on watching your loaded weight, you will be over the available pin weight on the truck. Especially if you are taking a generator, extra fuel etc.
I have a DWD 3500 Chev. My 5'er says 14,000 fully loaded with a dry pin weight of 2130. I know we put extra weight in the bed(generator) plus the upfront storage is full...I have never had the trailer total weight get up to 14,000 any time I have weighed it, but I have on occasion pushed the pin weight up to 3000lbs. You are not just getting higher pin weight capacity, I believe the 1 ton also has a bit bigger brakes and little stiffer suspension....to me piece of mind

[sdetweil]

I just went thru the same exercise.. 2012 F250, 10,000k GVRW. 3380 RAW on scales, 6100 RAWR. leaving 2720 of documented capacity for pin etc.

the GCVWR for both the 2012 F250 and F350 is 23500. so I could PULL a lot, just not 'carry' a lot. the F350 SRW highest RAWR is 7000 ,with a GVWR of 11,600. (note that the 1600lb increase in capacity doesn't all go to the rear axle)..

now, the truck TIRES were rated at 3850 each (80psi). for 7700lbs.
the 250 and 350 axles/brakes are identical. So technically the 10,000lb GVWR is a paper registration thing only (as noted some states charge commercial rates over 10,000lbs).

I wasn't willing to be overweight, even on paper. I couldn't afford the difference in a 250/350 srw trade. (best I found new was >6k difference)
but I found a same year dually for less than 1/2 that difference, with 1/2 the miles of my 250 (6500 vs 13000). and we had an 08 dually before the 250, and loved how it towed. but hated the fuel cost.

so now we have no weight worries. I know lots of folks that tow large with 250 shortbeds. I just wasn't willing to be one of those.
(and yes, the ride is rougher in the dually, but the rancho shocks and airbags have helped immensely).

Sam

[jus2shy]

My brand new 1-ton ended up costing less than what I bought my half-ton for brand new. I went 1-ton when the cost difference was roughly 400 or 500 bucks more for a 1-ton versus 3/4 ton. It sure jostles you around when unloaded though, but it rides like my father's 89' f-250.

[mpierce]

You had to have a LOT of options to add up to $5200 difference from 2500 to 3500.

Duallys are $1200 more in the Rams.

[gmcsmoke]

amxpress wrote:


I don't consider $5200 "little difference". Besides, the 3500 won't fit in my garage.

lol

[drfife]

amxpress wrote:

I don't consider $5200 "little difference". Besides, the 3500 won't fit in my garage.

My 3500HD standard bed SRW was less tha $200 more than a similarly equipped 2500HD.

[therink]

Srw difference from 3/4 ton on my 2012 was under a grand.

[DazedNConfused]

amxpress wrote:

The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton.

I don't consider $5200 "little difference". Besides, the 3500 won't fit in my garage.

Curious where you're getting $5,200 from? I thought there was only a few hundred dollars difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton SRW. There is big difference between 3/4 ton and 1 ton DRW, but not the SRW, no?

[amxpress]

The thing I see as a shame is that there is little difference in price going from a 3/4 ton HD truck to a 1 ton SRW so why bother with the 3/4 ton.

I don't consider $5200 "little difference". Besides, the 3500 won't fit in my garage.

[DazedNConfused]

Travlingman wrote:

DazedNConfused wrote:


If only it were that black and white. I wanted an F-350...but was glad I called the insurance company before I purchased. Because it has a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs, the state of NC forces me into a commercial policy. It would have been $1,200 more per year than the F-250. Since we camp about 36-40 nites per year, and this truck needs to be my daily driver, that $1,200 extra was too much considering my truck tows only 10% of the time I drive it. If insurance were the same, I'd have gotten the 350. But instead bought the 250 and that first year's savings of $1,200 more than paid for my air bags that the softer 250 suspension needed help with. Just economics for me.

Things have changed in NC since I moved out a little over 2 years ago then. I went from a 2500 to 3500 DRW an my insurance went up a little over $100 a year and that was because the 3500 was 5 years newer. The 3500 had GVWR of 11300 and nothing was ever said about commercial by my agent. I actually switched insurance companies 3 times while there for lower rates and never had issue with weight. When did NC start the commercial charge for weight?

Figures my timing is bad. This is my first truck -- I've only had SUVs before this and they didn't require a weighted tag. When I got the quote back for $900 more from my insurance agent (Nationwide), I asked why. She had to look in the notes and told me there was something in there that said because the GVWR is over 10,000 lbs, they have to put me into a commercial policy. That branch office also works closely with Progressive...and it was the same story with them. So either I got a line of******or there was something to it. I just knew that I didn't want to pay the extra $900 -- which was really $1,200 because of losing my multi-car discount on my regular policy. That's all I know...which ain't much. 🙂

[avvidclif1]

My choice was easy. The 2009 F350 CC Diesel was sitting there discounted about 13k. A 2010 F250 CC Gas was about the same price. Since I don't trade all the time (I still have my 96 GMC I bought new) it was a no brainer for me. They didn't have any 2009 F250's on the lot.

[Travlingman]

DazedNConfused wrote:


If only it were that black and white. I wanted an F-350...but was glad I called the insurance company before I purchased. Because it has a GVWR of over 10,000 lbs, the state of NC forces me into a commercial policy. It would have been $1,200 more per year than the F-250. Since we camp about 36-40 nites per year, and this truck needs to be my daily driver, that $1,200 extra was too much considering my truck tows only 10% of the time I drive it. If insurance were the same, I'd have gotten the 350. But instead bought the 250 and that first year's savings of $1,200 more than paid for my air bags that the softer 250 suspension needed help with. Just economics for me.

Things have changed in NC since I moved out a little over 2 years ago then. I went from a 2500 to 3500 DRW an my insurance went up a little over $100 a year and that was because the 3500 was 5 years newer. The 3500 had GVWR of 11300 and nothing was ever said about commercial by my agent. I actually switched insurance companies 3 times while there for lower rates and never had issue with weight. When did NC start the commercial charge for weight?

[goducks10]

JIMNLIN wrote:

Some times things just don't make sense. I guess that's why Ford offers an optional 10,000 lb gvwr sticker at no cost for their F350 SRW trucks

Looking at Fords Body Advisory spec pages shows The F350 SRW with 10k GVWR 6290 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3440 lbs of capacity
vs
the F250 with 10k GVWR 6100 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3400 lbs of capacity.

That doesn't make a lot of sense either.

Ya, why spend $900.00 to get 40lbs of payload with the same tow rating?http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

[JIMNLIN]

Some times things just don't make sense. I guess that's why Ford offers an optional 10,000 lb gvwr sticker at no cost for their F350 SRW trucks

Looking at Fords Body Advisory spec pages shows The F350 SRW with 10k GVWR 6290 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3440 lbs of capacity
vs
the F250 with 10k GVWR 6100 RAWR 6.7 reg cab has 3400 lbs of capacity.

That doesn't make a lot of sense either.