toy haulers stop at weigh stations?

[soje]

Are toy haulers required to stop at weigh stations/truck inspections or are they the same as all travel trailers{rv`s)
What about flatbed trailers hauling personal items?
Thanks in advance

[Steve76eb]

socaladam wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:
Clearly signed “Commercial Vehicles Only” in California.

A little known fact in CA. ANY personal truck with a plate that consist of 1 number + 1 letter + 5 numbers (1A23456) is a commercial plate. Same goes for the new plates in reverse order (65432A1).

So if CHP want's to be a jerk about it, the plates on your truck, even personally owned, are commercial plates and you are subject to the weigh station.

Not quite. Even though all pickup trucks are considered commercial vehicles in CA, not all of them have to stop at scales. They even have signs on the scales saying "NO PICKUPS". You will have to stop at the scales though and run the numbers on the side of the truck if your pickup meets one or more of the following:

A GVWR of 11,500 pounds or more
An unladen weight of 8,001 pounds or more
An open box-type bed exceeding nine feet
A utility body or flatbed instead of a pickup bed

My last Dodge dually from 2014 weighed over 8000 lbs and had a GVWR over 11,500. So technically I had to declare and pay for the extra weight of my choosing, run the weight stickers on the door and stop at scales if I was bobtailing, but was not required to stop if I had my 5th wheel attached. The older F450's were the first truck to run into this issue because of their weight and ratings. As long as you do not drive around without your RV attached you are cool. If you run into a cop or CHP that knows the law and wants to be a tin man, and you are running around bobtail without the proper paperwork, you can be in for a world of hurt.

[socaladam]

Lwiddis wrote:
Clearly signed “Commercial Vehicles Only” in California.

A little known fact in CA. ANY personal truck with a plate that consist of 1 number + 1 letter + 5 numbers (1A23456) is a commercial plate. Same goes for the new plates in reverse order (65432A1).

So if CHP want's to be a jerk about it, the plates on your truck, even personally owned, are commercial plates and you are subject to the weigh station.

[nayther]

sin cal hd wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:

nayther wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:
joebedford ~ one-truck is registered as COMMERCIAL 2nd that! ( confusing )

and in CA we MUST buy "commercial" plates for our pickups, even if not used commercially.

,Also if your using you pick up ~ (For Hire) You'll need a M.C.P. ? Yep Motor Carrier Permit in CA

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/dmv/home/dmvsearch?q=MCP

And a CA#

yes and yes, more ways to reach in your pocket.

[sin_cal_hd]

Dirtclods wrote:

nayther wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:
joebedford ~ one-truck is registered as COMMERCIAL 2nd that! ( confusing )

and in CA we MUST buy "commercial" plates for our pickups, even if not used commercially.

,Also if your using you pick up ~ (For Hire) You'll need a M.C.P. ? Yep Motor Carrier Permit in CA

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/dmv/home/dmvsearch?q=MCP

And a CA#

[Dirtclods]

nayther wrote:

Dirtclods wrote:
joebedford ~ one-truck is registered as COMMERCIAL 2nd that! ( confusing )

and in CA we MUST buy "commercial" plates for our pickups, even if not used commercially.

,Also if your using you pick up ~ (For Hire) You'll need a M.C.P. ? Yep Motor Carrier Permit in CA

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/dmv/home/dmvsearch?q=MCP

[sin_cal_hd]

To answer the question from a DOT stand point YES. Only if the rv is being hauled by an rv transporter. But you as the owner do not have to pull in.

[ependydad]

Copperhead wrote:
And all of those towing trailers from plants to dealers must stop. That is commercial activity. Even if it's a little ultralight camper.

When I had my factory returns, the drivers were GIDDY that I left my license plate on it because it meant they wouldn't stop at weigh stations. (Never mind the fact they were simply giddy to get paid for the return trip to Indiana.)

[nayther]

Dirtclods wrote:
joebedford ~ one-truck is registered as COMMERCIAL 2nd that! ( confusing )

and in CA we MUST buy "commercial" plates for our pickups, even if not used commercially.

[Copperhead]

And all of those towing trailers from plants to dealers must stop. That is commercial activity. Even if it's a little ultralight camper.

[Dirtclods]

joebedford ~ one-truck is registered as COMMERCIAL 2nd that! ( confusing )

[joebedford]

Just to make it confusing for some, my one-ton truck is registered as COMMERCIAL because there is no personal registration for a vehicle that heavy in my jurisdiction. I once got pulled over when I was in my truck WITHOUT my 5er. The inspector wanted to see my log books. He let me off when I explained the situation but he said "You would never be pulled over with an RV on the back". I reduced the registered weight of the truck so I wouldn't get pulled over when I'm 'solo'.

It's all academic now because this year they took away my Class A driver's license because I got tired of taking annual physicals.

[fj12ryder]

There used to be a weigh station in Iowa that had a sign: "Trucks, Buses, and Pickups must weigh". It's been gone for many decades, and I've never seen another. And, as near as I can recall, I never saw that one open. Go figure.

[Lexx]

Weigh stations in California have big signs that say “NO RV’s”. I guess they got tired of folks clogging up the weigh stations and wasting their time.

[Terryallan]

DougE wrote:
Weight stations primarily exist to regulate heavy haulers and long distance drivers. For example, states generally restrict total rig loadweights to 80,000# (or something similar). There are also restrictions on driving hours that are confirmed by checking log books. So, in general, if you are not a long distance driver hauling heavy loads, weight stations are not for you.

yes it is 80,000. A special permit in needed for more. Strangely enough the max axle weights add up to more than 80k. Or they did when I drove