We Took Your Advice Ordered a Dually

[UncleFudd]

Your advice and experience won over my desire to make a SRW short bed tow vehicle work. The Cedar Creek requires a dual wheel truck so we ordered a Ford crew cab long bed w/DRW including the factory installed 25K Reese hitch. There is a wide gap between the maximum SRW and DRW. If they made just one model somwhere in the gap that would work. Neither Ford or GM has one.
Thanks for your complete analysis and sound advice.

Now that we have the big problems settled Cedar Creek ordered & will take forever to get delivery. Cedar Creek say they can't find enough delivery personnel. And the TV ordered, we are looking for a bed cover.
The Retrax gets a lot of good reviews but is expensive & not leakproof.
What are your choices?
Thanks still again,
Jim

[Travlingman]

camillit wrote:
And I am SO glad I ordered my 06 Dodge Cummins dually! I purposely did because I knew about all the new emissions plumbing BS, pee tanks in GM and Fords. My 06 is now 7 years old, has 67,000 miles, and the original batteries!

Considering DEF didn't come out until 2011 model year, how come you were worried about it in 2006? :h

[NC_Hauler]

christopherglenn wrote:
The drawback on not having a urea tank is requiring the several times the EGR flow to meet emission requirements. And FWIW the new cummins engines DO NOT meet them, cummins is burning epa credits it earned from 07 model year+ that exceeded the 07 requirements.

The DEF (urea) IS on the 2013 Ram Dually, as well as any Cummins equipped 2013 model...so FWIW, the 2013 Ram Cummins DOES have a urea tank (DEF), it was required this year to meet emission requirements. So what part of your statement do I not understand? I never owned a Dodge until 2010 and at that time they only had DEF on their C&C trucks, only DPF on their regular Cummins equipped trucks. Chevy/GM and Ford had the DEF in 10'...now, the 2013 Cummins DOES have urea/DEF....so are you saying the 2013 version of the Cummins does not meet EPA emissions requirements?

[NC_Hauler]

jnharley wrote:
No it has never regened and probably will not according to Dodge because of the type of driving that we do. We are full timers and our truck is our daily drive.

Can't believe Dodge told you the truck wouldn't regen because of the type of driving you do, must have been someone that has no clue about the diesel engine with DPF..It's been through regenerations, you can take that to the bank....My truck is my dailey driver as well as towing my 5er....if you have DPF and no deletes, your truck has been through regenerations.

[Vulcaneer]

RAM diesels are now using Urea in 2013 model year. Urea is used as a supplement system so to be less dependent on EGR's. And as such increase fuel mileage, and reliability on the engine and exhaust system. My Ford 6.7 diesel has 13,000 miles. You can rub your finger on the inside of the tail pipe and get very little residue on the finger. A little dust is all. The tail pipe blows NO black smoke ever. And you can stand right next to it while running, and not smell any diesel exhaust.

Urea tanks are sized to be filled at or near oil change schedules. But if you are towing or heavy footed, filling the urea tank between oil changes is very common. And it seems that with the computer monitoring when oil changes are needed, large oil change intervals are scheduled. So you must plan on replacing urea before oil change intervals. Urea cost very little per mile. The benefits are worthwhile.

For the OP...I have a tri-fold tonneau. Mine is made out of convertible top material with vinyl underneath. Looks terrific. I remove the tonneau when towing the 5'r. And replace it when not towing. Removes and installs in less than 5 minutes. With my pinbox, I cannot have any tonneau that has a frame that sit on or inside the bed rails. Because when I turn the back of the pinbox will tear up the frame. Besides, I would rather remove it for towing. Easier to hitch without it. And I don't want to have to worry about it interfering with anything while towing.

[silvercorvette]

MrD wrote:
hate to hijack this thread but I am new to diesels and i am trying to catch up -- what is everyone talking about, pee tanks, regens, and what are the pros and cons, can I have just a readers digest version please

Thanks
mike

Urea = pee, but not really. The Urea tank has been nicknamed a pee tank but although some people have asked this question you can't just pee in the tank.

Ford and Chevy have an extra thank that needs to be filled with Urea, I have read that the Urea will not need to be filled between oil changes so every time you change the oil you need to fill the Urea which is and added expense and adds to the things that can go wrong.


The Urea is injected into the fuel mix to help cleanup emissions, Dodge (Cummins) has figured out a way to clean up emissions by using a regen system and as others have reported it does not seem to be necessary with the type of driving most of us do.

Basically the regen system regenerates hot exhaust gasses into a catalyst which burns off any Particulate Matter (PM) pollutants

[MrD]

hate to hijack this thread but I am new to diesels and i am trying to catch up -- what is everyone talking about, pee tanks, regens, and what are the pros and cons, can I have just a readers digest version please

Thanks
mike

[jnharley]

No it has never regened and probably will not according to Dodge because of the type of driving that we do. We are full timers and our truck is our daily drive.

[RECVEH2005]

To each his (or her) own. We did not want to drive a dually when unhooked from the fiver, so we purchased a smaller fifth wheel that we could tow safely behind a 3500 SRW (see sig.) Surely, a dually is somewhat more stable, but we just have never thought bigger is always better.

Donna & Mike

[Buckeye_Chuck]

Travlingman wrote:
Congrats on the new truck and camper. Looks like you did well. I have Trifecta tri-fold cover that does a good job. Pics of the new rig and camper when they arrive.

X2 on the Trifecta tri-fold cover.

[cherrykiss3]

I am glad to hear you got a Dually. My son's truck and my truck are alike except his is SRW and mine is DRW. We have pulled my 5er with both trucks.

Towing is more stable with the DRW and now he wishes he had DRW. You won't be sorry that is what you got.

Cherry

[camillit]

And I am SO glad I ordered my 06 Dodge Cummins dually! I purposely did because I knew about all the new emissions plumbing BS, pee tanks in GM and Fords. My 06 is now 7 years old, has 67,000 miles, and the original batteries!

[mrwacky]

Thanks for the reminder as to why we don't live in California. I can look out my window and see California 4 miles to the west, but my truck doesn't need some special expensive pee tank. It was a smart move in my opinion going with a dually.

[silvercorvette]

jnharley wrote:
We have a 2012 Dodge Dually and it has never regened. Oh, we have 35k miles on it.

I have a 2010 Dodge 409 cubic inch diesel and it stays parked unless I am towing therefore it only has 15,000 miles on it. I don't think that mine has been regened. But I am not sure if I would know if it had been, my question is how can I tell, is there a sound it makes

[Krease]

jnharley wrote:
We have a 2012 Dodge Dually and it has never regened. Oh, we have 35k miles on it.

Unless you've deleted your DPF, you have gone through a regen. It won't tell you on the dash, but you have.

To the OP. I have the Encore Extang also. I dunno if I'd reccommend it though.

[jnharley]

We have a 2012 Dodge Dually and it has never regened. Oh, we have 35k miles on it.